Evesham Nav Cam 6400 -new Aldi offer

[desyboy]

Latest Aldi offer is one of the above for £119.99. Has anyone tried these before? worth it?

Cheers

Des

[off_again]

That version uses the AA Navigator software which is pretty good. I have the AA Navigator product itself and it works well - not the flashiest or prettiest version of a Satnav around, but it does the job well and reliably. I went for the AA product as it was the first with TMC support (which is OK by the way). But the core navigation software is good and I have not had a problem with it. For a touch over a hundred nicker its a steal - if you want a TomTom get a TomTom, but if you dont mind then the AA stuff is pretty good.

[mightymouse]

Look good spec and value so --------
Advertised as on sale today.
Guess what !!
Went to Aldi near work today and was informed "they had't been delivered and it was a general cock up and weren't expecting them 'till next Wednesday".

[mightymouse]

Mate went back up to same store in the evening - guess what --------------------there they were.
Bought one anyway

[pingu393]

I bought one of these. It's my first sat nav and I'm not very impressed. I've probably been spoilt by AutoRoute!

The problems below might be down to lack of knowledge, but I've searched all the information for solutions, but to no avail...

1. I can't add waypoints, so if I don't like the route selected - tough.
2. The route from Nottingham to Scotland (using the "Prefer Main" option) goes

M1(N) / M62(E) / M60(SW) / M61(N) / M65(E)/ A56(N) / A59(E) / A682(N) / A65(N) / Across the M6!! / A590(NW) / A591(N) / Pass Windermere!! / A66(E) / M6(N) / Normal route to Scotland

"Fastest" selects the same route. "Avoid Motorway" does what it says!

This route is obviously wrong, but because I can't force it on track by adding waypoints, I'm frustrated.

3. I can't save routes, only start and end points.
4. I can't record the route I have taken.

Am I expecting too much? Any ideas how I can make it perform better?

Gary

[off_again]

pingu393 said:

1. I can't add waypoints, so if I don't like the route selected - tough.

Nope, not many actually allow you to do this anyway. I know that TomTom have recently released their Home tool which allows you to manage this type of thing, but its rare in pretty much all of the other products out there. A satnav tool is designed to get you from one place to the other - the use of waypoints is for general navigation and isnt popular.

pingu393 said:

2. The route from Nottingham to Scotland (using the "Prefer Main" option) goes

I dont know the route sounded OK to me. A quick check of Google maps does the same route. What's wrong with it? Anyway, its a tool not a fixed route. So you start driving and dont like the route, just do what you want and it will recalculate the route anyway. Whats the problem with this?

pingu393 said:

3. I can't save routes, only start and end points.

Nope, that is a pain.

pingu393 said:

4. I can't record the route I have taken.

Nope - see waypoints - very rare in reality

pingu393 said:

Am I expecting too much? Any ideas how I can make it perform better?

Yes, I think you have been spoilt with Autoroute. Lets be honest, for under £200 its a steal. Can you honest expect it to have the same set of features as say a PC?

[pingu393]

Thanks off_again. I thought I might be expecting too much for the money.

I really only need it for the last mile, as a large scale map is more than adequate to find the town. I've decided to use it as a Post Code / Street finder, which is where I think the added value really lies.

[seggy]

pingu393 said:

Thanks off_again. I thought I might be expecting too much for the money.

I really only need it for the last mile, as a large scale map is more than adequate to find the town. I've decided to use it as a Post Code / Street finder, which is where I think the added value really lies.

[seggy]

pingu393 said:

Thanks off_again. I thought I might be expecting too much for the money.

I really only need it for the last mile, as a large scale map is more than adequate to find the town. I've decided to use it as a Post Code / Street finder, which is where I think the added value really lies.

I also bought one of these when it works I am satisfied but seem to have trouble getting sat signal before starting(in any location)but once signal is obtained its alright,seems to go funny roots but vary quick to renavigate if you go a differant way, any ideas about the signal?.

[pingu393]

seggy said:

I also bought one of these when it works I am satisfied but seem to have trouble getting sat signal before starting(in any location)but once signal is obtained its alright,seems to go funny roots but vary quick to renavigate if you go a differant way, any ideas about the signal?.

To re-establish the signal , press "System" in the "Main Menu" (the one that has "Navigation" as the other option. Then "Sys Info", then "GPS Reset", then "Yes". The read-out will change, but there is no indication to tell you the signal has been re-established. Close the window. Close the "System" window. Open the "Navigation" window, and continue as normal. It is only now wheteher you will know if you have a signal.

You should also have the aerial raised.


BTW, I shall be returning mine under the Aldi Returns scheme...

Aldi Returns Policy

[seggy]

pingu393 said:

seggy said:

I also bought one of these when it works I am satisfied but seem to have trouble getting sat signal before starting(in any location)but once signal is obtained its alright,seems to go funny roots but vary quick to renavigate if you go a differant way, any ideas about the signal?.

To re-establish the signal , press "System" in the "Main Menu" (the one that has "Navigation" as the other option. Then "Sys Info", then "GPS Reset", then "Yes". The read-out will change, but there is no indication to tell you the signal has been re-established. Close the window. Close the "System" window. Open the "Navigation" window, and continue as normal. It is only now wheteher you will know if you have a signal.

You should also have the aerial raised.


BTW, I shall be returning mine under the Aldi Returns scheme...

Aldi Returns Policy

[seggy]

pingu393 said:

seggy said:

I also bought one of these when it works I am satisfied but seem to have trouble getting sat signal before starting(in any location)but once signal is obtained its alright,seems to go funny roots but vary quick to renavigate if you go a differant way, any ideas about the signal?.

To re-establish the signal , press "System" in the "Main Menu" (the one that has "Navigation" as the other option. Then "Sys Info", then "GPS Reset", then "Yes". The read-out will change, but there is no indication to tell you the signal has been re-established. Close the window. Close the "System" window. Open the "Navigation" window, and continue as normal. It is only now wheteher you will know if you have a signal.

You should also have the aerial raised.



Thanks for the advice on recalibrating the GPS tried this and its much better, I knew to have the aerial up but did not think to recalibrate the GPS,you get like that when you pass sixty,cheers.
Aldi Returns Policy

Edited by seggy on Wednesday 21st March 19:00

[eliptical]

Most readers of this topic who have already been suckered into the £120 purchase, have at least some resolve by being able to take it back to Aldi and obtaining a full refund in the 30 day period. My advice is, do just that.
My original reason for the purchase was that, a few years ago, Aldi UK had a special offer on a Medion sat nav unit in the form of a PDA. Good bundle and it did everything I wanted. Sadly, that unit has demised through my own rough handling and so, it was a timely event that Aldi UK advertised another GPS in car unit on the 15th March 2007. Just a few pennies short of £120, I went for it on the basis of what it said it could do.
It quickly turns out that this unit does NOT do what it says on the tin (to coin a phrase) and far from it..
Both advert, exterior of box and documentation supplied, says it has Accurate Door to Door Navigation and entries by House Number.. Well, as that is exactly what my past Medion GPS unit did, I'd be happy with that.
Took me 10 minutes out of the box before it became VERY obvious that this unit does nothing of the sort.
Regardless of whether you attempt to plan the route by postcode or streetname, it does not allow you to input an individual house number before it instead, goes straight to its calculating mode.
Evesham have a err, a support web site and an even more err, incredible telephone support line. Fine, if you want to spend about £6 , hanging about on their 0870 number, all day, fine. You MAY finally be able to speak to a human voice, but don't even consider that you will find a resolve from them, as the question posed about the lack of the quoted benefits of this system will be greeted with, "first time we've been asked that question" and "well, it must be the AA software that is at fault".
The knowing, nervous coughs bewteen the statements instilled into me, a follow up call the next day, with the same questions but as another user. Surprise, surprise, similar answer was given by the obvious goldfish.
Well, as they had been gracious enough to pass the blame onto the AA navigator software, I made a call to the AA Navigator production team on 0870 1080013. Nice people After posing them the problem, the resultant statement was most informative. i.e. " The Navigator software was never produced with an individual house number facility, so why Evesham should make statement to that is beyond me". I did ask about an upgrade but was advised that even with the new version (due out in May of this year), it was highly unlikely that it would include this provision.
So, two contacts down and still no resolve. It was suggested to me that I put in a road that is knowingly LONG, in the hope that the house number faciltity may come on line. Although I am now aware that it does actually offer, what they call, "segmented location" by house numbering, this is only reported as a "block" of numbers, i.e. 1-100 as an example and again, only for a very limited number of roads in the UK.. Let's try WATLING STREET then? As it only runs from the borders of Scotland down to London,, should have no problems eh :?: WRONG
In an effort to bring this matter to the retailers, Aldi UK (head office number 01245 215000), I was promised a return call. That was 4 days ago and despite making every attempt to resolve with EVESHAM via emails, (I even suggested a replacement mapping software that I was more than happy to download from their web site, at MY expense), the "two liner" response, given 3 days later was about as ignorant as you would ever wish to receive. As such, I'm not wasting any more time on them or this unit, which quite frankly, after researching the web for alternatives, is well over priced for what it is and there are many more out there from about £79 inclusive, that do as much, if not more than this heap of junk.. Yes, it does have more problems, such as its standby mode for so called power saving? Easy to touch by accident, button that not only puts it into sleep mode but also eliminates any input or current routing you just happen to be following at the time :!: Anyway, they had their chance and blew it big time.. Off now to Trading Standards to vent my frustration. Well, it is the most mis-leading package I have ever come across so, why not? This is after all, the forum to keep you informed and if I just ward off just ONE unsuspecting potential buyer or save just one existent buyer the cost and frustration of trying to resolve with Evesham, then it has all been worthwhile. I end on the statement by their own customer services (a contradiction in terms if there was ever one) and I quote, "we had a very successful launch of a new product, with the entire allocated stock of Nav-Cams selling out within hours of the stores opening." I'd say Mr Smug,, you'll have an even busier time restocking these units back onto your shelves when they come back in their thousands from the customers you've attempted to hoodwink with your untrue statements..

[off_again]

... er, have you just tried to enter the number AND the street name in the address? Done it on mine (AA Navigator 2006) and its fine. It might not be 100% accurate, since the maps are not great, but works OK....

Edited to add: Yep, just tried it on my AA Navigator and when you are looking for an address you need to name the town (if any) and then the street. Once at the street entry you can enter a number and then the street name. Ok, its not the fastest search but it does work. The only issue is that it wont really show you the exact location - though what it thinks is the best is actually centred on the screen.

Street numbers are fairly accurate but it differs widely so dont expect them to be 100%, not even 90%. Probably closer to the 70%-80% accurate.

Edited by off_again on Tuesday 27th March 16:48

[seggy]

eliptical said:

Most readers of this topic who have already been suckered into the £120 purchase, have at least some resolve by being able to take it back to Aldi and obtaining a full refund in the 30 day period. My advice is, do just that.
My original reason for the purchase was that, a few years ago, Aldi UK had a special offer on a Medion sat nav unit in the form of a PDA. Good bundle and it did everything I wanted. Sadly, that unit has demised through my own rough handling and so, it was a timely event that Aldi UK advertised another GPS in car unit on the 15th March 2007. Just a few pennies short of £120, I went for it on the basis of what it said it could do.
It quickly turns out that this unit does NOT do what it says on the tin (to coin a phrase) and far from it..
Both advert, exterior of box and documentation supplied, says it has Accurate Door to Door Navigation and entries by House Number.. Well, as that is exactly what my past Medion GPS unit did, I'd be happy with that.
Took me 10 minutes out of the box before it became VERY obvious that this unit does nothing of the sort.
Regardless of whether you attempt to plan the route by postcode or streetname, it does not allow you to input an individual house number before it instead, goes straight to its calculating mode.
Evesham have a err, a support web site and an even more err, incredible telephone support line. Fine, if you want to spend about £6 , hanging about on their 0870 number, all day, fine. You MAY finally be able to speak to a human voice, but don't even consider that you will find a resolve from them, as the question posed about the lack of the quoted benefits of this system will be greeted with, "first time we've been asked that question" and "well, it must be the AA software that is at fault".
The knowing, nervous coughs bewteen the statements instilled into me, a follow up call the next day, with the same questions but as another user. Surprise, surprise, similar answer was given by the obvious goldfish.
Well, as they had been gracious enough to pass the blame onto the AA navigator software, I made a call to the AA Navigator production team on 0870 1080013. Nice people After posing them the problem, the resultant statement was most informative. i.e. " The Navigator software was never produced with an individual house number facility, so why Evesham should make statement to that is beyond me". I did ask about an upgrade but was advised that even with the new version (due out in May of this year), it was highly unlikely that it would include this provision.
So, two contacts down and still no resolve. It was suggested to me that I put in a road that is knowingly LONG, in the hope that the house number faciltity may come on line. Although I am now aware that it does actually offer, what they call, "segmented location" by house numbering, this is only reported as a "block" of numbers, i.e. 1-100 as an example and again, only for a very limited number of roads in the UK.. Let's try WATLING STREET then? As it only runs from the borders of Scotland down to London,, should have no problems eh :?: WRONG
In an effort to bring this matter to the retailers, Aldi UK (head office number 01245 215000), I was promised a return call. That was 4 days ago and despite making every attempt to resolve with EVESHAM via emails, (I even suggested a replacement mapping software that I was more than happy to download from their web site, at MY expense), the "two liner" response, given 3 days later was about as ignorant as you would ever wish to receive. As such, I'm not wasting any more time on them or this unit, which quite frankly, after researching the web for alternatives, is well over priced for what it is and there are many more out there from about £79 inclusive, that do as much, if not more than this heap of junk.. Yes, it does have more problems, such as its standby mode for so called power saving? Easy to touch by accident, button that not only puts it into sleep mode but also eliminates any input or current routing you just happen to be following at the time :!: Anyway, they had their chance and blew it big time.. Off now to Trading Standards to vent my frustration. Well, it is the most mis-leading package I have ever come across so, why not? This is after all, the forum to keep you informed and if I just ward off just ONE unsuspecting potential buyer or save just one existent buyer the cost and frustration of trying to resolve with Evesham, then it has all been worthwhile. I end on the statement by their own customer services (a contradiction in terms if there was ever one) and I quote, "we had a very successful launch of a new product, with the entire allocated stock of Nav-Cams selling out within hours of the stores opening." I'd say Mr Smug,, you'll have an even busier time restocking these units back onto your shelves when they come back in their thousands from the customers you've attempted to hoodwink with your untrue statements..

[seggy]

Seggy also took his back after after getting frustrated with it not calculating route or not getting GPS signal. paid 141.78p for Tom Tom One with cameras worked straight out of box no problems even get signal sitting in the house Definitely worth the extra £21+.

Edited by seggy on Wednesday 4th April 21:51

[pingu393]

I also took mine back to Aldi. I got the money back without any problem. As I wanted the Sat Nav for the weekend and it was Friday morning, I got a TomTomOne from Tesco (just next door to Aldi), and paid £159.97.

I would have liked to wait until I got it from Amazon for £141, but I needed it quickly.

It's a shame, as I have bought 2 top of the range PCs and a laptop from Aldi. The laptop is still ahead of its time, even though it is nearly 18 months old.