Police Advanced Drivers Course

[jonnyboy]

A quick question, having recently taken and passed an advanced Police drivers course, does this entitle me to membership of the IAM ?

Cheers

Jonny Boy

[BOF]

My understanding is that you will join as a full member without having to take the Test, so cost would be Membership only...no Test fee.

You will be more than welcomed by any IAM Group - anywhere near Chelmsford?

BOF.

PS - We have a retired Class 1 in the Group...happy to put you in contact if you want a chat?

Edited by BOF on Wednesday 5th December 16:53

[vonhosen]

jonnyboy said:

A quick question, having recently taken and passed an advanced Police drivers course, does this entitle me to membership of the IAM ?

Cheers

Jonny Boy

That's the case for a response course, not just an advanced course.

[BOF]

"That's the case for a response course, not just an advanced course."

Von,

Can you elaborate on the difference between the two levels?

BOF.

[xxplod]

Response usually equated to a Grade 3 or 4. Advanced was a Grade 1 or 2.

Basically an advanced course is looking for greater skill, better lines and overall more polish to the drive. A lot more to it than that obviously. Whereas to pass a "response" course, the standard is lower - (still high) but the examiner is looking for a safe, systemised drive, sometimes with restrictions on the excess speed that is allowed when responding.

I'm sure someone will explain this better than me!

[R_U_LOCAL]

xxplod said:

Response usually equated to a Grade 3 or 4. Advanced was a Grade 1 or 2.

Basically an advanced course is looking for greater skill, better lines and overall more polish to the drive. A lot more to it than that obviously. Whereas to pass a "response" course, the standard is lower - (still high) but the examiner is looking for a safe, systemised drive, sometimes with restrictions on the excess speed that is allowed when responding.

I'm sure someone will explain this better than me!

Put very simply, a standard response course is a three week course to allow officers to drive low performance cars on general patrol and emergency respose.

An advanced course is a four week (or in some forces 5, including a weeks pursuit driving) course for officers who have already passed a standard course, upgrading them to allow them to drive high performance cars.

The principles of both courses are the same, but the advanced course is taught in faster cars and has a higher pass mark.

[xxplod]

Thanks R U Local!
Although some forces (mine) have a 5 week 'standard' course which inc. a week of blues/twos, which is actually referred to as an 'intermediate' course and this qualifies you to drive area/traffic cars. Advanced course is then another 4 weeks.

But most forces do a 3 week 'standard' course followed by advanced training to inc. pursuit which is actually much more sensible.

[vonhosen]

BOF said:

"That's the case for a response course, not just an advanced course."

Von,

Can you elaborate on the difference between the two levels?

BOF.

In simple terms the basic principles (as far as the driving is concerned) for 'standard response' (aka level 3) & 'advanced' (aka level 1 or 2) are the same.
It's the same four S's & the same system after all.

If you were to think of perfection in relation to each of the four S's as a horizontal line on a page, then for the 'advanced' level, you just can't fall short of those lines as often or as far as you can for 'standard response' level & still pass. A higher level of consistent performance in relation to all four S's is required.

Level 1 & 2 will be in bigger, faster cars.
Level 1 will include tactical pursuit while levels 3 & 2 don't. They are only initial phase pursuit courses, level 2 in big cars, level 3 in little cars.

Edited by vonhosen on Wednesday 5th December 23:15

[ipsg.glf]

Von

Can I ask what the MO is when you are instructing in a vehicle over the speed limit and you come across a marked police vehicle?

Do you slow / turn off or carry on regardless?

[BOF]

Thanks to all three for the info - appreciated.

I know where I stand now in relation to the local (gorgeous) Community driver in the Police Smart Car...

BOF.

[jonnyboy]

Bof

Thanks for the reply, i presume the IAM have a website and i can get joining instructions on there.
I'm not too far from Chelmsford, Rayleigh.

Cheers

Jonny Boy

[BOF]

Have a look at Local Groups - Area 7...one nearer you than Chelmsford I think?

http://www.iam.org.uk/iamgroups/groupdirectory/

Happy to send you any further info required...

BOF.

Edited by BOF on Thursday 6th December 21:04

[jonnyboy]

So I see, a tad closer tham Chelmsford.

I have emailed IAM re exemption as I am not a serving or retired Police Officer, so want to see if I am still eligible. I work for 'The Church' if you get my drift.

Cheers

Jonny Boy

[xxplod]

Hi JonnyBoy - I too am a former member of the same Church. Small world. That's how I did my driving courses too. Re-joined the BiB and have scarcely used them since!

[WeirdNeville]

Anyone care to enlighten me as to what "the church" means???

[TripleS]

WeirdNeville said:

Anyone care to enlighten me as to what "the church" means???

I think it's where I ought to be on a Sunday morning, with a view to making amends for my many and varied sins.

Actually, I'd like to know the right answer too.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

[BOF]

Church of St John?

BOF

Or Mark?

Edited by BOF on Sunday 9th December 18:03

[jonnyboy]

Mr Brown ex-communicated us before he left for No 10 !!

How long were you in xxplod ? London or provinces ?

Cheers

jonnyboy

[7db]

Isn't Chelmsford Porker's hood?

[ipsg.glf]

ipsg.glf said:

Von

Can I ask what the MO is when you are instructing in a vehicle over the speed limit and you come across a marked police vehicle?

Do you slow / turn off or carry on regardless?

Von?