Wingnut Wings 1:32 SE.5a
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Fianlly started this beauty tonight
Full build log here:
http://sparforums.com/ipb/index.php?/topic/835-se5...
No point duplicating build logs, so no more of those from me here on PH. I'll just post finished models.
Full build log here:
http://sparforums.com/ipb/index.php?/topic/835-se5...
No point duplicating build logs, so no more of those from me here on PH. I'll just post finished models.
Eric Mc said:
Boo!
I must build my Revell 1/72 SE5A some day. I also have the 1/72 Roden one in my stash.
My ambition is to build one of them in the colours of Edward "Mick" Mannock VC - as he was born in Cork.
The Revell one was the first kit I ever built (It's the reason bought this WW version reaslly) I built another a few years ago...there's something nice about that kit despite its age.I must build my Revell 1/72 SE5A some day. I also have the 1/72 Roden one in my stash.
My ambition is to build one of them in the colours of Edward "Mick" Mannock VC - as he was born in Cork.
The 'real' reason it's supplied with two fuselages is that one is moulded as 'perfect', the other moulded with realistically wrinkled linen covering.
Detail! Awesome!
As you can see my OCD has selected the perfect version...
ETA The headrest is a seperate moulding that just so happens to cover a sprue gate, thus removing the need for filling any imperfections. Ahhh detail.
Detail! Awesome!
As you can see my OCD has selected the perfect version...
ETA The headrest is a seperate moulding that just so happens to cover a sprue gate, thus removing the need for filling any imperfections. Ahhh detail.
Eric Mc said:
I wonder to WW turn a profit at what they do?
Their atention to detail appears to be absolute and yet their prices are reasonable foer what you get.
Is Peter Jackson subsidising the operation?
It's a mystery. IIRC it cost about £37 or something like that, delivered from New Zealand, and no tax to pay.Their atention to detail appears to be absolute and yet their prices are reasonable foer what you get.
Is Peter Jackson subsidising the operation?
Maybe they're just trying to get a good reputation? Having said that, they're not a new manufacturer anymore and are still producing totally new kits at amazing prices.
dr_gn said:
Eric Mc said:
I wonder to WW turn a profit at what they do?
Their atention to detail appears to be absolute and yet their prices are reasonable foer what you get.
Is Peter Jackson subsidising the operation?
It's a mystery. IIRC it cost about £37 or something like that, delivered from New Zealand, and no tax to pay.Their atention to detail appears to be absolute and yet their prices are reasonable foer what you get.
Is Peter Jackson subsidising the operation?
Maybe they're just trying to get a good reputation? Having said that, they're not a new manufacturer anymore and are still producing totally new kits at amazing prices.
mybrainhurts said:
Eric Mc said:
as he was born in Cork.
Bet that made his mother bark...He was a very charismatic and determined character and was highly respected by the men who flew under his command.
Ironically, he was reputed to be an Irish nationalist and if he had survived the war there were strong indications that he would have entered politics.
A couple of people on PH said they'd like to see progress without going to the SP&R forum, so I'll copy and paste relevant things here if you like.
First, despite the base kit being excellent, some details always look better in p/e, so I got this detail set which also include belts and painting masks, plus some strange transparent wood grain decals (which I won't be using):
As I mentioned, the main mouldings are brilliant - there are at least 8 parts here (fuselage alone has around 5 panels) all clicked together without glue - and virtually no gaps. The separate headrest fairing covers about the only area that might have needed filler (where a sprue gate went)...good mould design:
So I finally made a start on assembly. I like engines, so I started with that. I cut off the original spark plugs and drilled out the holes. Then made some new brass plugs out of bits of brass tube:
They are a tad longer than the original plastic stubs, and look more realistic I hope. Some techniques (includig the above) I'll be stealing unashamedly from here:
http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/
So here are the main engine parts modified, assembled, filled and painted read for a dark wash/dry brushing and some detailling:
Must admit, although the instruction manual is beautifully presented, it is sometimes very confusing with respect to painting. I've noticed an error on the fuselage internal schematic already (not corrected on the 'ammedned' sheet on the WW website by the way), and some parts appear to be assigned one colour at one stage of assembly, then another detail colour later on (the magnetos for example), which are far easier painted before any assembly.
Anyway, there are a bewildering number of new techniques to learn on this kit, pretty sure it won't turn out exactly how I'd like, but you've got to start somewhere!
First, despite the base kit being excellent, some details always look better in p/e, so I got this detail set which also include belts and painting masks, plus some strange transparent wood grain decals (which I won't be using):
As I mentioned, the main mouldings are brilliant - there are at least 8 parts here (fuselage alone has around 5 panels) all clicked together without glue - and virtually no gaps. The separate headrest fairing covers about the only area that might have needed filler (where a sprue gate went)...good mould design:
So I finally made a start on assembly. I like engines, so I started with that. I cut off the original spark plugs and drilled out the holes. Then made some new brass plugs out of bits of brass tube:
They are a tad longer than the original plastic stubs, and look more realistic I hope. Some techniques (includig the above) I'll be stealing unashamedly from here:
http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/
So here are the main engine parts modified, assembled, filled and painted read for a dark wash/dry brushing and some detailling:
Must admit, although the instruction manual is beautifully presented, it is sometimes very confusing with respect to painting. I've noticed an error on the fuselage internal schematic already (not corrected on the 'ammedned' sheet on the WW website by the way), and some parts appear to be assigned one colour at one stage of assembly, then another detail colour later on (the magnetos for example), which are far easier painted before any assembly.
Anyway, there are a bewildering number of new techniques to learn on this kit, pretty sure it won't turn out exactly how I'd like, but you've got to start somewhere!
Back from France to see this lovely work of art
I love the wrinkly skin, (quite like mine own) that much attention to "details" is great
dr_gn thanks for bringing your build here, I already have so many bookmarks it takes ages to pick up new "faves"
bring it on, I'll sit here with a large cuppa coffee
The engine is rather nice
I love the wrinkly skin, (quite like mine own) that much attention to "details" is great
dr_gn thanks for bringing your build here, I already have so many bookmarks it takes ages to pick up new "faves"
bring it on, I'll sit here with a large cuppa coffee
The engine is rather nice
Bit more progress on the engine - the crankase is done, as are the cylinder blocks with the exception of the plugs:
The radiator I'm quite pleased with. I was experimenting with Vallejo Air 'copper' on the water pipes, but it was way too light - like highly polished copper. So I decided to overcoat it with Tamiya 'clear orange' to make it darker. no idea why, but it gave a really nice 'old' brass colour. I then used this combination on the radiator core. The copper pipes I ended up using citadel 'dwarf bronze'.
Propeller has its base coat of Vallejo 'hemp' ready for oil painting to give a wood effect.
Oil tank is ready for a dark wash. All engine and ancilliary parts will eventually be finished with vallejo satin varnish.
The radiator I'm quite pleased with. I was experimenting with Vallejo Air 'copper' on the water pipes, but it was way too light - like highly polished copper. So I decided to overcoat it with Tamiya 'clear orange' to make it darker. no idea why, but it gave a really nice 'old' brass colour. I then used this combination on the radiator core. The copper pipes I ended up using citadel 'dwarf bronze'.
Propeller has its base coat of Vallejo 'hemp' ready for oil painting to give a wood effect.
Oil tank is ready for a dark wash. All engine and ancilliary parts will eventually be finished with vallejo satin varnish.
Did some further work on the engine and ancillaries:
Added brass tube plug lead conduits to the cylinder blocks and magnetos.
Drilled the magnetos ready for adding plug wires.
Added copper wire & brass unions to the front of the cylinder blocks for camshaft oil feed pipes.
Drilled out the carburettor intake - I'll be adding the throttle and mixture levers next).
Cut off and drilled the inlet manifold priming taps ready for replacing with brass tube.
Added a photo-etch core plug to the inlet manifold.
Painted and weathered the oil tank.
Happy so far - there's a nice balance of existing detail vs detail to be added.
ETA, this is the scheme I'm going for:
Capt JH Tudhope (10 victories), 40 Sqn.
It's from the Pheon models decal set (allows me to use the much nicer wooden u/c legs and two bladed prop). I've also ordered the resin corrected fin and rudder.
Added brass tube plug lead conduits to the cylinder blocks and magnetos.
Drilled the magnetos ready for adding plug wires.
Added copper wire & brass unions to the front of the cylinder blocks for camshaft oil feed pipes.
Drilled out the carburettor intake - I'll be adding the throttle and mixture levers next).
Cut off and drilled the inlet manifold priming taps ready for replacing with brass tube.
Added a photo-etch core plug to the inlet manifold.
Painted and weathered the oil tank.
Happy so far - there's a nice balance of existing detail vs detail to be added.
ETA, this is the scheme I'm going for:
Capt JH Tudhope (10 victories), 40 Sqn.
It's from the Pheon models decal set (allows me to use the much nicer wooden u/c legs and two bladed prop). I've also ordered the resin corrected fin and rudder.
Edited by dr_gn on Monday 25th June 00:07
Eric Mc said:
Don't tell me they got the fin and rudder wrong?
Or is the resin rudder more accurate for the version you are doing?
Apparently they forgot to put stitching detail on the fin and rudder.Or is the resin rudder more accurate for the version you are doing?
And strangely, the resin correction pieces are different side to side, so they're wrong too, but less wrong than the original!
All of this is what I've been told on SP&R forum. I guess it's not out of the question that certain variants had a plain surface on the fin and rudder - I can't see how W-W would let that error through...Oh well, in for a penny, in for a pound and all that.
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