Finished 1/32 Revell Heinkel He 162A-2 Salamander
Finished 1/32 Revell Heinkel He 162A-2 Salamander
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The_Jackal

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4,854 posts

221 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Got this for a bargain £7 a couple of years ago at Modelzone.
All the bits fit perfectly and a nice easy big kit for the money.


Heinkel He162A-2 by jackaldesigned, on Flickr

Heinkel He162A-2 by jackaldesigned, on Flickr

Heinkel He162A-2 by jackaldesigned, on Flickr

perdu

4,885 posts

223 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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That's a nice kit of rather a pretty fighter 'plane

Good to see it thanks



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Eric Mc

124,906 posts

289 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Very nice.

Did that aircraft not actually carry Swastikas or is their lack just down to none being on the decal sheet?

davepoth

29,395 posts

223 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Very nice.

Did that aircraft not actually carry Swastikas or is their lack just down to none being on the decal sheet?


Looks like it didn't.

dr_gn

16,768 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Nice clean build that.

Is it the Revell one, or Tamiya?

The_Jackal

Original Poster:

4,854 posts

221 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Yes I think it did have swastikas in real life, but that kind of thing doesnt bother me.

Eric Mc

124,906 posts

289 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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I can definitely see a Swastika on the real one.

They were normally carried on 162s.

marcosgt

11,440 posts

200 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Yeah - I can see Swastikas - Does that me a Nazi? biggrin

Honestly, if there should be swastikas on the model, why the hell aren't there?????

I hope there's more to it, otherwise it's political correctness gone mad!!!! biggrin

Cool model though.

M.

dr_gn

16,768 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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marcosgt said:
Yeah - I can see Swastikas - Does that me a Nazi? biggrin

Honestly, if there should be swastikas on the model, why the hell aren't there?????

I hope there's more to it, otherwise it's political correctness gone mad!!!! biggrin

Cool model though.

M.
It is indeed political correctness gone mad. I posted a photo on here not long ago of a scale model show in Germany: every swastika (or more correctly hakenkreuz) was temporarily covered with a small scrap of masking tape.

TheProfessor

158 posts

169 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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I've seen pictures of a German aircraft museum form a couple of years ago that had just put back on display an ME110 in night fighter configuration.

As per various German laws it had no swastikas on its tail or air frame

dr_gn

16,768 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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TheProfessor said:
I've seen pictures of a German aircraft museum form a couple of years ago that had just put back on display an ME110 in night fighter configuration.

As per various German laws it had no swastikas on its tail or air frame
In some cases (artistic effect or something IIRC) it's allowed, but in general not.

Red Firecracker

5,331 posts

251 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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I believe some kits are sold in some European countries with slightly incomplete Swastikas to get around these laws. By incomplete, they have a small clear line in one of the arms.

dr_gn

16,768 posts

208 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Red Firecracker said:
I believe some kits are sold in some European countries with slightly incomplete Swastikas to get around these laws. By incomplete, they have a small clear line in one of the arms.
There are also some that you have to assemble from a series of 'L' shapes.

CanAm

13,046 posts

296 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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dr_gn said:
TheProfessor said:
I've seen pictures of a German aircraft museum form a couple of years ago that had just put back on display an ME110 in night fighter configuration.

As per various German laws it had no swastikas on its tail or air frame
In some cases (artistic effect or something IIRC) it's allowed, but in general not.
The last time I went to the Deutsches Museum in Munich, none of the planes had swastikas. But look at the tail of this Tante Ju taken at the Auto & Technik Museum in Sinsheim Germany in 2006:-


About half of their German planes now have swastikas on the tails; there was a Heinkel 111 with a bare tail in 2006, but with a swastika in 2011 after a partial repaint. See also their FW190


Eric Mc

124,906 posts

289 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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The "Swastika" issue for scale models is easily circumvented. There are plenty of "after market" Swastika decal sheets available.

No WW2 German aircraft model is complete without the appropriate Swastika in place - unless the real aircraft did not feature one (which sometimes was the case).

What is geting really annoying is that decal sheets for air forces which had the Swastika as their main air force logo, such as Latvia and Finland, are sometimes omitted from kits and box art - and they had nothing to do with Nazis at all.

Red Firecracker

5,331 posts

251 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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I often think in these cases it would be far better to include the correct artwork and just insert a small note in the box which details the brief history and the fact that they are there for historical accuracy, not as a precursor to a Fourth Reich. I really can't see a link between continued/emerging hard line fascism in the European Union and a schoolboy building a small model. Educate rather than censor.

Anyway, I must get back to the 40 a day smoking habit I don't have from being influenced whilst watching the evils of tobacco run around on race cars and from building models of them and their cancer loaded tobacco advertising decals.

marcosgt

11,440 posts

200 months

Friday 13th July 2012
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Eric Mc said:
The "Swastika" issue for scale models is easily circumvented. There are plenty of "after market" Swastika decal sheets available.

No WW2 German aircraft model is complete without the appropriate Swastika in place - unless the real aircraft did not feature one (which sometimes was the case).

What is geting really annoying is that decal sheets for air forces which had the Swastika as their main air force logo, such as Latvia and Finland, are sometimes omitted from kits and box art - and they had nothing to do with Nazis at all.
Maybe, but I'd have thought generating an aftermarket for Swastikas decals is playing into the hands of those who might have unsavoury interests in such things.

If you want 20 Swastikas and get 2 in every model costing a tenner, that's going to be less appealing than buying 20 on a sheet for a couple of Euros! biggrin

Totally agree on the Finnish airforce Swastikas too - They're blue for Budha's sake!!!!

M

Eric Mc

124,906 posts

289 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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We have no choice regarding aftermarket decal sheets. They are a must if you wanty to build accurate WW2 Luftwaffe kits.

Hannants to a nice set in their Xtradecal range.