3D modeller wanted!
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JW027

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407 posts

162 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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Hi Guys,
I want to 3D print a model of the Noble M12/M400 as a personal project. Is there anyone who has some spare time to model the car?

Thanks,
Jed

AER

1,145 posts

292 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Seriously?

How many gazillion hours CAD work are you prepared to pay for?

Even if you scanned it, it would take a load of time and/or a load of expensive software to prepare an STL file for printing.

Not impossible, but hugely more expensive than most people budget for their pet projects, especially when they can't do stuff for themselves.

AER

1,145 posts

292 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Not an M12/400, but here's an M600 for you:

https://grabcad.com/library/noble-m600-1

Stig

11,823 posts

306 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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AER said:
Seriously?

How many gazillion hours CAD work are you prepared to pay for?

Even if you scanned it, it would take a load of time and/or a load of expensive software to prepare an STL file for printing.

Not impossible, but hugely more expensive than most people budget for their pet projects, especially when they can't do stuff for themselves.
This.

Modelling cars in 3D isn't the work of minutes or hours - more like days or weeks.

Cheapest route if you want an exterior 'skin' model only, is to laser scan a scale model. But creating the mesh from pics/blueprints takes an age to do properly.

Not the anwer you wan't to hear no doubt, but that's the reality.

JW027

Original Poster:

407 posts

162 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Thanks for the comments guys. I understand totally what's involved. I've modeled cars before & I work every day in CAD. One of my goals for 2016 is collaboration, expanding knowledge and cross-pollination. I do like the 3D scanning idea. This could be a fun project.

anonymous-user

76 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Creating it from scratch does seem like a huge amount of effort and cost for not much reward. Unless you go for an insanely high resolution print (with the associated costs) the final model will look pretty hopeless, and lack a load of detail compared with traditional modeling methods.

JW027

Original Poster:

407 posts

162 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Thanks guys. I own a formlabs 3D printer so I'm able to print at 25 microns. I also think it's funny how people define reward based on their views. Perhaps I would get more reward from this than you would as it's my car. I get that you may not have the same passion or that the results may not be the same as a production version or worth the time but that's a little narrow minded. For me it's more about the collaboration, journey and the actually doing something rather than not starting because of x,y,z.

Thanks for all your opinions but i think I'll close the topic down if I can work out how too!

anonymous-user

76 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Didn't mean to cause offense...it's just that I spend much of my time guiding prospective clients away from 3D printing and back towards more traditional modelling methods (CNC machining for example) because 3D printing isn't the magic bullet they thought it was. If you have your own printer (Form 2?) you'll appreciate that to some extent I'm sure.

If you want this bad enough, you'll make it happen - good luck!

JW027

Original Poster:

407 posts

162 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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No offense taken. perhaps i should of mentioned my skillset and printer first off. It's been a while since I was on the forum and there is so much amazing help and advice around. They really are incredible but I always think there are a little too many barriers put up rather than people with solutions or positivity.

I agree that 3D printing isn't a one stop shop the press have sold it as. I also agree it's not a replacement for traditional techniques. Both serve their own purposes and both require the public to be educated. I would say traditional techniques require more skill and take longer. I have a 1+ the larger build platform and new resin is not an incentive to upgrade on a performance vs cost scenario.

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

219 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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AER

1,145 posts

292 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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I loaded up the GrabCAD model of the M600 that I posted up earlier to see what it was like. Well, it took some time to regurgitate the STEP file into SolidWorks and was a pretty graphics heavy model. It was very well modelled, but I'd guess it'd take many hours of work to turn it into something that could be 3D printed, even at 25um

I think the problem with 3D printing is that it makes people believe that everything is possible, but the reality is it is just another tool and the real skill and effort is, like any other CNC technology, developing the product that is actually worth printing/machining/manufacturing. For all the buzz about 3D printing technology, very little seems to be said about the massive increase in design and engineering talent that is required to actually make it useful.

frap

5 posts

208 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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I may be able to help you out here.
An example of a 3d model that could be printed ( exterior only )if this is what you are after, this only a render of the 3D model. I have experience of 3D printing but it depends on the resolution you require and your 3d printing equipment.



Edited by frap on Thursday 28th January 18:02

JW027

Original Poster:

407 posts

162 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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Hi guys I agree with you all. It's a great technology but it's limited by user skill. As was photography at one stage too!

That's a sweet looking model! I'd love to talk some more if you fancy it. Can you PM me your details?

Jed