School building model

[jules_s]

Evening all

Probably boring to most of PH, but may be of interest here

I've recently completed the design/build of a new school - nothing that special (apart from it's one of the first Passivhaus schools locally)

What may be of interest to you is that the school is a replacement for an old school building (circa 1840ish - again not that intriguing model wise) - but the school wanted to bring a legacy from the old school to the new and someone involved works for Aardman....

So what we have is a perfect model of the old school - and I mean 'perfect' down to external lights/signs/finials etc.- it is utterly epic - I have designed and commissioned an ash pedestal/glass unit for it to be displayed in too

I can get some pics if anybody is interested? - I may do anyway to remind myself of the journey - it has been quite a journey - £10m new school and a mere couple of grand getting the display done without the model in question!

[Dieci]

Pics ,yes please .
Everything is better with pics .

[jules_s]

Dieci said:

Pics ,yes please .
Everything is better with pics .

Off my works laptop atm so no pics yet. I only just remotely thought it might be interesting to you lot on here

I have some photos but it really needs some macro(ish) photos to do it justice (school signs/basketball hoops etc)

[Haltamer]

jules_s said:

nothing that special (apart from it's one of the first Passivhaus schools locally

As well as the model I'd be interested in hearing about the energy efficiency design techniques / technologies used, Always find that rather fascinating

[Minsky]

Yes please - interested in the energy efficiency specs as well.

[jules_s]

Minsky said:

Yes please - interested in the energy efficiency specs as well.

Post Covid jab today so wiped out

Passivhaus isnt a secret but in terms of roughly what we did: -

RIBA Stage 1/2 with PHPP (google it)
Stage 3: Fabric first approach ( enhanced U values, triple glazing etc) seriously low airtightness (0.35 air changes in this instance) again with PHPP
Stage 3: BIM stage 2 compliant spatial co-ordination with more PHPP

This ended us up with a circa 300sqm PV array feeding an ASHP and a centralised MVHR (I dont think I will do centralised again)

The above was Passivhaus co-ordinated by a Passivhaus consultant and a certifier

It's the first school I've done with Passivhaus - probably the last tbh. Way too much material/design cost for a public building

I've missed loads but you get the point I hope

I'll get some model pics up over the weekend - this is more about the model than the new build (but I can add renders of the virtual new build model if you like)

[Simpo Two]

I started to make a scale model of my primary school - in craft lessons while I was still a pupil there...

I completed one building, but the scale was far too big and was using up all the cardboard so my grand plan was cut short!

[Countdown]

jules_s said:

Post Covid jab today so wiped out

Passivhaus isnt a secret but in terms of roughly what we did: -

RIBA Stage 1/2 with PHPP (google it)
Stage 3: Fabric first approach ( enhanced U values, triple glazing etc) seriously low airtightness (0.35 air changes in this instance) again with PHPP
Stage 3: BIM stage 2 compliant spatial co-ordination with more PHPP

This ended us up with a circa 300sqm PV array feeding an ASHP and a centralised MVHR (I dont think I will do centralised again)

The above was Passivhaus co-ordinated by a Passivhaus consultant and a certifier

It's the first school I've done with Passivhaus - probably the last tbh. Way too much material/design cost for a public building

I've missed loads but you get the point I hope

I'll get some model pics up over the weekend - this is more about the model than the new build (but I can add renders of the virtual new build model if you like)

As somebody who was the Finance Lead on a couple of Academy builds I would have been quite nervous of all that tech and who was going to pay for the maintenance I assume it was a Design & Build scheme?

[jules_s]

Countdown said:

As somebody who was the Finance Lead on a couple of Academy builds I would have been quite nervous of all that tech and who was going to pay for the maintenance I assume it was a Design & Build scheme?

yes - D&B - but we took it to Stage 3 as we can nail the clients scope/cost plan better that way

[jules_s]

[Simpo Two]

Great to it rebuilt in the original style, and not an ugly box

Let's hope all that eco box-ticking was worth it...

[hidetheelephants]

I may be misunderstanding but the model is of the old building, not the new?

[mac96]

That is a really nice model- what scale is it? Looks around 1:18 but hard to judge from photo.

[jules_s]

hidetheelephants said:

I may be misunderstanding but the model is of the old building, not the new?

Yes, it's the old school building

The new one is a big ugly box

[jules_s]

mac96 said:

That is a really nice model- what scale is it? Looks around 1:18 but hard to judge from photo.

I have no idea I'm afraid (not my work) - I would guess around there though

[Simpo Two]

jules_s said:

Yes, it's the old school building

The new one is a big ugly box

Oh. When you said 'What may be of interest to you is that the school is a replacement for an old school building (circa 1840ish - again not that intriguing model wise) - but the school wanted to bring a legacy from the old school to the new...' I thought that somebody wanted to preserve the architectural heritage of the area.

£10M on a school. Let's hope the pupils all go to Oxbridge.


NB If I may say so the roof tiles look a bit Wallace and Gromit...

Edited by Simpo Two on Saturday 17th December 22:35

[jules_s]

Simpo Two said:

jules_s said:

Yes, it's the old school building

The new one is a big ugly box

Oh. When you said 'What may be of interest to you is that the school is a replacement for an old school building (circa 1840ish - again not that intriguing model wise) - but the school wanted to bring a legacy from the old school to the new...' I thought that somebody wanted to preserve the architectural heritage of the area.

£10M on a school. Let's hope the pupils all go to Oxbridge.


NB If I may say so the roof tiles look a bit Wallace and Gromit...

Edited by Simpo Two on Saturday 17th December 22:35

Nope the 'legacy' was a reminder of the old school - the model. It (the model) will be displayed in the reception lobby so everyone is reminded of the schools more humble orgins (which weren't humble at all back then tbh)

Wallace and Gromit? - well it was done by someone in Aardman roof slates are made of cd cases iirc

I found it on google earth for context

[jules_s]

Just to finish this off



Not 100% as I wanted it but happy anyway

[RATATTAK]

This is like deja vu and really interesting for me ... I had a similar project (not Passivhaus) mid 2000s for an old small village school similar to yours. I did the architectural, structural and landscape design and then project managed the build for my client. The new school was built on a new site and the old school has since been sold and converted to a dwelling.

This is the old school:

Edited by RATATTAK on Wednesday 1st February 20:51

[wibble cb]

RATATTAK said:

This is like deja vu and really interesting for me ... I had a similar project (not Passivhaus) mid 2000s for an old small village school similar to yours. I did the architectural, structural and landscape design and then project managed the build for my client. The new school was built on a new site and the old school has since been sold and converted to a dwelling.

This is the old school:

Edited by RATATTAK on Wednesday 1st February 20:51

Impressive, is that 1:1 scale?