Clio 197 service schedule??

Clio 197 service schedule??

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Two-headed dog

Original Poster:

11 posts

226 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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Hi All,

I need to get my lovely 197 Cup serviced, as its almost at 29k miles, and the last one was at 17k. Renault just quoted me £288.88 incl VAT and i'm thinking, for what!? The car was registered in March 2008, so about 6 months to go on the warranty. However, i'm loathe to paying some mechanic that kind of money when i have the facilities to do it myself, if it indeed is just oil, oil filter and air filter (around £60-70 for materials then).

Any thoughts on what the service should entail at 29k miles? I'll take the risk with the warranty, perhaps if i use the correct ELF oil they might accept it if a mechanical (i.e. engine-type)warranty repair is needed in the next 6 months.

Cheers,

Adam

BigMans197

1,193 posts

209 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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I'm guessing that's its 3rd service?

Spark plugs are due on that one (I think), so thats a another £40. I did my 30K service with good quality oil and genuine parts for about £115.

Up to you about risking the warranty, but you will save a few quid, and like you say, its straightforward stuff (oil filter isn't fun to get at though!)

GTP rpm

4,506 posts

198 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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Renault customer service has improved a lot for customers who get their vehicles serviced by Renault dealerships. We'd have them cover 100% items on cars that are over 6 years old.

Servicing is nothing special...but if you take it to a good delearship, where correct procedures are applied, you'll get more of a service than just an oil change.

I for one, remove all the wheels (even if pads are visibly brand new) and measure the discs/pads, clean hub mating faces, torque wheels up correctly. I'll in the process even clean the brake calipers (if the painted ones) and I'll clean most of what's under the bonnet...it should be put on the Clip/diagnostics machine and all computers checked for any little faults and cleared if they are irrelevant which, makes future diagnosis easier. All locks/catches greased, correct inspection of suspension/chassis components etc etc.

However, a lot of people, don't bother to do those extra things that should justify why main dealer prices are higher.

Two-headed dog

Original Poster:

11 posts

226 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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Guys, thanks for the thoughts. I've just dug-out the service schedule from the 'Warranty and Maintenance booklet'.

Says~:

Change oil & oil filter every 12k miles,
Air filter every 24K miles,
Spark plugs every 36K miles,
Timing (camshaft) belt and auxillary belts every 72K miles.
Says to replace the 'passenger compartment filter' every 12K miles, which i'm assuming is their term for a pollen filter?

Am annoyed that someone serviced the car at or before 5K miles, as this throws the schedule out of easy-to-recognise sync (and may concern a future buyer when i eventually decide to sell the car). Also, why did Renault change the air filter at 17K when i had it serviced last!?

Just need to find out for definite how to get rid of the 'Service Due' and spanner icon from the dashboard when i get the car serviced. Am hearing views about holding the stalk button in whilst the car is off, then turn the ignition key without starting the car, keeping the button held in..!?

Swervin_Mervin

4,478 posts

240 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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Find a good specialist imo, regardless of comments above about how good dealerships are. The dealerships in Renaults chain are the reason I won't ever buy a new one again.

The fact the oil has been changed before 5k is a very good thing. I had mine done at 1500miles because it was black. Just because the book specifies certain intervals does not mean that additional servicing inbetween isn't a good thing. I'd argue it means that your car has probably had a more careful owner.

Besides, it may have only done 5,000 miles after 12 months. Remeber the schedule is XXmiles OR every 12 months.

GTP rpm

4,506 posts

198 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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Swervin_Mervin said:
Find a good specialist imo, regardless of comments above about how good dealerships are. The dealerships in Renaults chain are the reason I won't ever buy a new one again.

The fact the oil has been changed before 5k is a very good thing. I had mine done at 1500miles because it was black. Just because the book specifies certain intervals does not mean that additional servicing inbetween isn't a good thing. I'd argue it means that your car has probably had a more careful owner.

Besides, it may have only done 5,000 miles after 12 months. Remeber the schedule is XXmiles OR every 12 months.
Heh...the amount of time "specialists" bring cars to a main dealer to fix, without telling the customer is amusing.

Oh well, as long as it saves £30 a year on a service, it's well worth taking it to people who can't do their job.

wink

Swervin_Mervin

4,478 posts

240 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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I know the specialist I use wouldn't ever send it to a main dealer as they know how utterly cr4p they are.

Same reason I won't. It's bad enough having to put it into the stealership for warranty work and getting it back damaged.

Two-headed dog

Original Poster:

11 posts

226 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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The previous owner of mine must've hit on hard times i'd say ref the 5K service. I bought an '08 197 Cup in i.d. glacier white with the speedlines, a/c and the recaro's for £12,500 and it was at the garage i bought it from for at least 2 months (list price with that spec around £17.5-18K?). So that 1st owner took a massive hit (i'd estimate the garage got it for £11k) of at least £7000 for driving the car just 5000 miles!

Renault Cheltenham want £290 for the service, hence my decision to get it done elsewhere. Any of you chaps know how to get rid of the 'service now' lights & spanner icon after i get it serviced?

Swervin_Mervin

4,478 posts

240 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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He won't have been hit that hard. I paid a full £3k under list for my cupped 197.

GTP rpm

4,506 posts

198 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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Two-headed dog said:
The previous owner of mine must've hit on hard times i'd say ref the 5K service. I bought an '08 197 Cup in i.d. glacier white with the speedlines, a/c and the recaro's for £12,500 and it was at the garage i bought it from for at least 2 months (list price with that spec around £17.5-18K?). So that 1st owner took a massive hit (i'd estimate the garage got it for £11k) of at least £7000 for driving the car just 5000 miles!

Renault Cheltenham want £290 for the service, hence my decision to get it done elsewhere. Any of you chaps know how to get rid of the 'service now' lights & spanner icon after i get it serviced?
Tell your local main dealer, how much you are paying for the service and what is included in that service.

If Renault are quoting you for a full service and Fred in a Shed is quoting for an oil and filter change, they'll laugh at you.

But if both quotes are for a full service with genuine parts, let Renault know and they'll at VERY least be able to knock 20% off of parts and labour.

Everyone has different results at different garages. To write off all Renault main dealers because of one or two bad experiences, is pathetic. I'm not going to say all main dealers are perfect, I know a lot of bad technicians, but that's why in my garage most Sport range cars get given to me to work on wink

Swervin_Mervin

4,478 posts

240 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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More like all the garages centred around the City I live in. Probably about 7-8 dealerships in all.

You seem similarly derogatory of specialists.

GTP rpm

4,506 posts

198 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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...as said, because the so called "specialists" keep filling our workshop with work they couldn't do.

Swervin_Mervin

4,478 posts

240 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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So just like I have with the stealerships, you tar them all with teh same brush just because a couple in your area are inept?

eybic

9,212 posts

176 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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Two-headed dog said:
Renault Cheltenham want £290 for the service, hence my decision to get it done elsewhere. Any of you chaps know how to get rid of the 'service now' lights & spanner icon after i get it serviced?
The "specialist" should have turned it off, it is an easy procedure which they should be able to do for you. If they can't manage to turn a light out I wouldn't let them svc a car for me.

Swervin_Mervin

4,478 posts

240 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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He's on about servicing it himself, hence wanting to know how to turn off the spanner. Should be an easy google. OP, I'd suggest making your way over to www.clio197.net.

For a one make forum it's actually not that bad at all. Some good guys on there with a fair bit of unbiased knowledge.

GTP rpm

4,506 posts

198 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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Swervin_Mervin said:
He's on about servicing it himself, hence wanting to know how to turn off the spanner. Should be an easy google. OP, I'd suggest making your way over to www.clio197.net.

For a one make forum it's actually not that bad at all. Some good guys on there with a fair bit of unbiased knowledge.
Actually, he said "after I get it serviced".

The amount of times we've had people walk into our dealership saying "I've just had my car serviced, can you extinguish the service light for me?" and assume we should do it for free!

Swervin_Mervin

4,478 posts

240 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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He does indeed. And in his first post he identifies that he has the facilities to do the service himself.

Hence I put the 2 together to come to the conclusion he wanted to know how to extinguish the light when he services it himself. Astounding.

Two-headed dog

Original Poster:

11 posts

226 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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Guys, i should explain that i work for a local authority in the South-West of England, and immediately next to my office is a garage where all of the fleet vehicles are serviced. In the ten years that i i've been there i have changed the oil, oil filters and air filters on my Ford Pumas several times using their ramp. They are VAT-registered and so i intend doing the same with the Clio. The fitters may or may not know how to deal with the 'Service now' & 'spanner' lights on the dashboard, hence me questioning the method.

I have nothing in principle against using Renault garages to service a Renault car, but a 12K service when the car is at 29K miles is oil, oil filter and pollen filter if i'm not mistaken (the air filter was replaced 12K miles ago). The thin rubber door-strip on both sides of the car have split, though i understand that this is a common fault and involves removing the glass if i want it dealt with. There is a knocking noise coming from the rear which is audible at very low speeds and which i believe is the plastic moulding tapping on the inside of the back door glass. I can live with / deal with this.

I do not wish to cause any offence to those who work for Renault ref my wish to service the car myself or get it done elsewhere, but generally the car is sound and in my 14 months with it it's been faultless. Hence in these hard £!times (my pay will be frozen by the government for two years any minute now) i think carrying out a simple oil & filters change is something that i should look to save a significant amount of money on, and would be unwise not too.

CatherineJ

9,586 posts

245 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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If you can find a Renault Main Dealer with a Renault Minute attatched to them then you can take it there. You get the main dealer stamp and when we had our 197 serviced we saved approx £100 off the 1st service cost.

Edited by CatherineJ on Monday 6th September 17:02

Swervin_Mervin

4,478 posts

240 months

Monday 6th September 2010
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Two-headed dog said:
The thin rubber door-strip on both sides of the car have split, though i understand that this is a common fault and involves removing the glass if i want it dealt with.
DO NOT let anyone remove the glass. This fix can be carried out without doing so. I've had mine replaced twice now. I even spoke to the Renault tech as it had already come adrift again by the time I went to pick it up! He said he'd just had to do one on a brand new delivery car.

But I reiterate, do not let anyone tell you that the glass has to come out. This is complete bull and is likely to cause more harm than good as those windows are bonded in. I mentioned this to the Renault tech and he looked horrified that some dealerships are telling customers this.