Arnage Leather/Trim vs. earlier cars

Arnage Leather/Trim vs. earlier cars

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Rushmore

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144 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Back from another weekend in UK, looking at Arnages.

The leather on both GL and RL Arnages seems to be of a lower quality compared to end-of-range Turbo Rs. The latter has a thick, buttery feel to it, with liqorice-like pipings. Arnage leather looks thin and frail, almost all cars have these thin-line creases. Only the leather in the T Arnages looked more substantial and robust, maybe because of the diamond quilting.

Same when it comes to wood/details. Some Arnages have even slightly "milky" wood (like the birdseye maple on post-2000 MY XKRs which was also prone to fade/discolour), compared to the almost 3-D grain found in late-model SZ cars.

The worst detail of the Arnage is the ashtray in the rear doors. A cheap and nasty little plastic lid (even used in the post 2005 MY cars) - compare this with the chromed one in the SZ cars and their much more sculptured doorcards.

Bottom line: Arnages have great exteriors, almost like a sculpture. The SZ range is charming, provocative, with many nice details.


Rushmore

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Saturday 17th November 2012
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Yesterday I had another look at an early Red Label. The leather looks as if it meant to be "rouched" but in fact was simply creasing and badly sewn. The leather on the airbag cover showed bubbles, as if the glue had disappeared.


buyer&seller

778 posts

180 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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Blimey, that's a shock. Looking at 12/13 year old cars and finding signs or wear and tear. eek

Rushmore

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Saturday 17th November 2012
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Very funny, B&S.

You know what I mean. Compare early Arnages with late model Turbo Rs. The leather in the early Arnage looks frail, thin and "cheap".

Rushmore

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Saturday 17th November 2012
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And if you look at early Arnages even on Autotrader, you'll find many where the steering wheel's airbag cover shows bubbles, as if the glue has given up.

POORCARDEALER

8,528 posts

243 months

Saturday 17th November 2012
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Different leather suppliers, english then german iirc

Rushmore

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Saturday 17th November 2012
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Well, the 1998-2002 leather looks rubbish.

simonpieman

364 posts

188 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Rushmore, I agree with your observation. The leather trim in the Arnage T does seem to be aging much better than that in the pre 2002 models.

With the Arnage now being such good value, is there merit in buying a pre 2002 model and getting the front seats repaired or re covered? It doesn't cost as much as you might think, according to some posts on the BMW pages.

Rushmore

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Monday 19th November 2012
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http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2012...

A good example of the "rouched" leather and the bubbles on the airbag cover/steering wheel.

Unfortunately we do not have proper detailers/leather restaurators in Germany, there is a company called Lederzentrum offering all the parts for DIY but I am fairly rubbish at doing these things myself.

ted 191

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227 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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Rushmore said:
Very funny, B&S.

You know what I mean. Compare early Arnages with late model Turbo Rs. The leather in the early Arnage looks frail, thin and "cheap".
I asked the people in the trim shop at Bentley the same question...........Arnage leather dye is water based.

spyker138

930 posts

226 months

Saturday 24th November 2012
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This is odd because mine is nothing like this - seems very saddle like in quality, little creasing, definitely no roushing or bubbling. Mine is US spec, 2001 Red Label. Not sure what the difference is, if any. I did hear once that Magnolia leather deteriorates faster than others, but maybe folklore. Mine is Cotswold...and very comfy

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Rushmore

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Sunday 25th November 2012
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Great pic:-)

The black window surround are much worse than the chrome ones in the SZ range btw.

Rushmore

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Sunday 25th November 2012
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Really? I thought that is an exterior paint matter, didnt know it also applies to leather.

ted 191 said:
I asked the people in the trim shop at Bentley the same question...........Arnage leather dye is water based.