100k or 40k ????
100k or 40k ????
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K8BSH

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204 posts

200 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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Looking to buy a Cooper S, 2nd car/odd track day car. Found 2004 40k £5500 and 2003 97k £4500, both trade and tidy. Any one have any advise on pros and cons regarding these two options. Been lurking a lot lately to pick up some pointers but now i need to buy. Thanks in advance

si_xsi

1,291 posts

217 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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i'd say both are at least £500 over priced, but thats just bargainging room.

What sort of history do each have. The higher mileage older car might have had lots replaced. Is the 2004 car a 54 plate and therefor facelift 170 bhp?

If it is being used on track, does it have a LSD? Many came with them, but it was an option IIRC.

Watch out for power steering pump issues, check condition of exhaust especially back boxes as they rust in the edges, check to see if the timing chain tensioners have been replaced, they are plastic and fail causing big damage - google mini death rattle.bushes and anti-roll bars should be squeak/rattle free.

If you are handy with spanners get cheaper older car, bear in mind people say the supercharger should last 100k no probs but the oil should have been changed by then (overlooked) and it could be costly if it goes but 2nd hand ones available.

At this age and budget though i might be swayed to the newer less mileage car.


ging84

9,548 posts

168 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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if you are planning on tracking definitely go for the facelift, better super charger giving a few extra hp and closer range gearbox
not sure you could get the lsd on the pre face lift either
from jan 2005 the lsd was a default option for cars with the chili pack (but there was the option to unspec it)
for a track car i don't think your mileage makes much difference, the engines and gearboxes are strong, and most of these cars were owned by middle aged women for the first 5 years+, so most have not been trashed. And most of the other stuff that wear with mileage like suspension and interior you'd be replacing or stripping out for track use anyway

K8BSH

Original Poster:

204 posts

200 months

Sunday 17th March 2013
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Thanks for the info guys, Both have full history, no mention of work other than oil and brake fluid though. Think the cheeper one is for me, bit of a chance with both I think. Would like a LSD but thers not many around or the ads don't mention them anyway.

Sir_Dave

1,505 posts

232 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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Both are overpriced, ive just paid £3k for a mint '52 with 64k miles & full BMWSH.

Either of these would be a far more sensible purchase imho:

http://www.minitorque.com/forum/f228/53-plate-blac...
http://www.minitorque.com/forum/f228/2003-black-co...


K8BSH

Original Poster:

204 posts

200 months

Monday 18th March 2013
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They do look better options, and I like some of the mods. I'll keep an I on Minitorque. Thanks