Will this battery be ok?

[markbigears]

Hi all,

looking for some advice before i pick up:
Original battery is no fully charging, but is the original from 2010, so it's done extremely well.
couple of questions: will this battery be a direct replacement?
Although for a Opal / Vauxhall, looks exactly the same as the factory fit. Same specs and dimensions. (both Probably a rebadged Varta)
Also, i keep reading about "coding", i dont use the stop / start function .... so can i just swap out no problem?

Many thanks, all the best, Mark

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Vauxhall version:

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[un1eash]

Can't tell from the pictures but as long as there the same physical size, I think type 096 then yes 70ah 760cca will be fine.

You will need to register the new battery as if you don't tell the car the battery is new it'll think it's 13 year olds and adjust the charge profile which will severely shorten the life span of the new battery.

[markbigears]

Thanks unleash, yes it's a 096 and same dimensions. I just need to find out how to register it now!

[un1eash]

You can do it via Carly or BimmerLink but at a cost, BimmerLink is about £30 and then £10 for a Bluetooth dongle if you have an android device.
Where are you based as local mechanic should be able to do it cheaper.

[markbigears]

After a quick chat to my friendly car mechanic … £20, happy days. I’m going to call the main dealer tomorrow for a quote for battery, fitment and registering

[un1eash]

Make sure your sitting down when the main dealer gives you the price. You should be able to get a battery delivered for around £140. I just paid £150 for a type 115 battery and used my mechanic friends Autel to register it.

[cuprabob]

If you haven't purchased a battery already, Tayna normally have competitive pricing and offer good service.
https://www.tayna.co.uk/car-batteries/?gclid=CjwKC...

[markbigears]

Thanks Cuprabob, I did look at their site as they usually are around best price.

Managed to source a less than year old one exactly same battery and specs £35 and £20 to register by local mechanic.
From the dealers: battery supply only £219, inc fitting / registration £309

Edited by markbigears on Tuesday 27th June 11:37

[GT4P]

Am I reading this right? You have to register a new battery wtf ! I have fitted a new battery to a Porsche and not had to do this! Is this the case for F56 also?
Just to add when I got a new battery for the Porsche I got a Bosch Silver from Halfords and better than OEM and a lot cheaper!

[un1eash]

Yes it's the same for all Mini/BMW from about 2002. You need to code the battery size/capacity also if it changes.

[rigga]

Anything with IBS(intelligent battery monitoring) needs a change in battery registering or coded to the car. If not the alternator will continue to charge as if the old one was still fitted, and it will knacker the new battery in short order.

Had BMW replace my battery due to having increased discharge messages, was the original at about 7 years old, so about right for it to start failing, only lasted two years before I started getting the same messages again, using my local indie he plugged in his diagnostic, and could see no battery had been registered from new, so even BMW themselves don't get it right.

Having stop start or not doesn't matter, it's IBS that counts.

[jfdi]

GT4P said:

Am I reading this right? You have to register a new battery wtf ! I have fitted a new battery to a Porsche and not had to do this! Is this the case for F56 also?
Just to add when I got a new battery for the Porsche I got a Bosch Silver from Halfords and better than OEM and a lot cheaper!

https://www.milescontinental.co.nz/news/advice/car...

Article said:

Your vehicle’s BMS and EEMS take a different approach to the management of your car battery over time to account for its aging. If you were to replace an aged battery at the end of its service life with a brand new battery without updating the BMS, your new battery’s performance and service life will be compromised.

This is why a new car battery should be coded to your vehicle. In this process, your Battery Management System (BMS) is informed that a new battery has been installed and that your Electrical Management System (EEMS) should treat your new battery differently to your previous, aged, battery.

Basically resetting the battery management system to inform it of the new battery. Optimising the charging pattern to prolong the life of your new battery.

[mikees]

un1eash said:

Make sure your sitting down when the main dealer gives you the price. You should be able to get a battery delivered for around £140. I just paid £150 for a type 115 battery and used my mechanic friends Autel to register it.

In the same predicament (wife's 2018 convertible cooper s).

Called Mini dealer (they all now appear to be Sytner who is try and avoid) and they wanted £450 odd quid to chnage the battery. The battery alone was £218 something double Bosh from an indie. I presume that they simply dont want that sort of work

[un1eash]

mikees said:

In the same predicament (wife's 2018 convertible cooper s).

Called Mini dealer (they all now appear to be Sytner who is try and avoid) and they wanted £450 odd quid to chnage the battery. The battery alone was £218 something double Bosh from an indie. I presume that they simply dont want that sort of work

Sounds about right from a main dealer once they've charged their high hourly rate and no doubt added some kind of scope scan onto the bill.