What EXACTLY are the differences between a JCW and an S ?

[Ireland]

I'm thinking again about getting something as a road-legal trackday toy and it'll probably be another Elise, an Exige or a Mini.

I've checked the search but couldn't find a definite list of the differences between the standard S and the JCW.

What exactly are the advantages and the physical differences between them?

[lancs clubbie]

R56 COOPER S
Engine: 1.6 litre, 4 cylinder/16 V
Max. output/hp/revs: 175 hp at 5500 rpm
Max. torque/revs: 240 Nm at 1600 - 5000 rpm
Max. torque/revs: 260 Nm at 1700 - 4500 rpm (with overboost)

Acceleration 0-62 mph: 7.1 s

Top speed: 140 mph

Acceleration 80-120 km/h (4th / 5th / 6th gear): 5.5 s / 7 s / 8 s

Fuel consumption (urban)¹: 8.9 l/100 km
Fuel consumption (extra-urban)¹: 5.7 l/100 km
Fuel consumption (combined)¹: 6.9 l/100 km

CO2 emissions¹: 164 g/km

Unladen weight (EU)²: 1205 kg
Max. permissible weight: 1580 kg
Max. permissible roof load: 75 kg
Luggage capacity (min. - max.): 150 - 670 litres
Dimensions (L x W x H): 3714 x 1683 x 1407 mm
Transmission: 6-speed manual

JCW

Engine

1.6 litre, 4 cylinder / 16 V

Max. output/bhp/revs

211 hp at 6000 rpm

Max. torque/revs

260 Nm at 1850-5600 rpm (280 Nm with Overboost function)

Acceleration 0-62 mph - Manual (secs)

6.5 s

Top speed - Manual (mph)

148 mph

Acceleration 50- 75 mph (4th / 5th gear)

5.2 s / 6.2 s

Fuel consumption mpg - Manual (urban)¹

30.7 mpg

Fuel consumption mpg - Manual (extra-urban)¹

50.4 mpg

Fuel consumption mpg - Manual (combined)¹

40.9 mpg

CO2 emissions¹

165 g/km

Unladen weight (EU)²

1205 kg

Max. permissible weight

1580 kg


Max. permissible roof load

75 kg

Luggage capacity (min. - max.)

160 - 680 litres

Fuel Tank capacity (approx.)

50 litres

Dimensions (L x W† x H)

3730 x 1683 x 1407 mm

Insurance Group

17E

Transmission

6-speed manual

[hyperblue]

You talking about the supercharged R53's? or the turbo R56?

In the case of the R53's not much, for a track day car I'd save my money and get an S. It can easily and cheaply be modified to be far more powerful than a standard JCW. There's no point in paying the premium for a JCW for a track toy.

For R56, there's a lot more differences between the S and the JCW. The JCW would be a much better starting point.

[nottyash]

The R53 has no overboost as its a supercharger.
JCW:It is still 210 BHP, but it was an after purchase add on costing about £3000. Cars should have a certificate, I belive differences are a re map, bigger injectors and cylinder head, airbox, and SS exhaust system aswell as different supercharger pulley.

[lancs clubbie]

Take a look at what the guys said here
http://forums.northernmini.co.uk/showthread.php?t=...

[nottyash]

Further to my last post, The early JCW were 200BHP, and from late 2004 they were 210BHP
(There was a change in the normal cooper S aswell)

[997c2scab]

Ireland said:

I'm thinking again about getting something as a road-legal trackday toy and it'll probably be another Elise, an Exige or a Mini.

I've checked the search but couldn't find a definite list of the differences between the standard S and the JCW.

What exactly are the advantages and the physical differences between them?

It really depends as a number of them just had the standard £3k upgrade fitted by the dealer however you also had factory fitted JCW which were of a much higher spec.

My My factory JCW also had a number of the other extra's John Cooper offered aswell as the performance upgrade - I.e Wheels, Brakes, Strutbrace, Suspension, Leather Recaro Seats etc, Carbon Fibre dash board area

See my below advert - This car had every single JCW & Mini extra on the list

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1442019.htm

[KennyGT]

This all depends mate.

An S R65 or R53 takes around 7 seconds to get to 60.

Visual differences are the bodykit and wheels, and spoiler.

However some cars are said to be JCW but dont have the 200+ BHP. e.g they have all the looks but still same performance as a regular S.

A full fat JCW will hit 60 in around 6.5 seconds and have all the kit and toys.