What a loser!
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TEKNOPUG

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20,176 posts

226 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8536491.s...



So you are gonna miss out on playing for your country in the World Cup, the highest pinnacle of your sporting career; a World Cup where you have a realistic chance of winning; where you may be looking back in 30 years on the "boys of 2010" and you aren't one of them, all because of some 'lut that you aren't even seeing anymore?!?!?!



LOSER

maix27

1,070 posts

217 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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What a fool.

Cutting off nose to spite face me thinks...

southendpier

5,976 posts

250 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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hardly, guys reacting with dignity and doesn't want the overbearing worldwide media spotlight on him.

Football isn't everything you know.

...unless there are new stories to come out.

Edited by southendpier on Thursday 25th February 12:12

TEKNOPUG

Original Poster:

20,176 posts

226 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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maix27 said:
What a fool.

Cutting off nose to spite face me thinks...
He needs to grow a pair. Stand up in front of the whole squad on the first day, point to JT and say "This man is the most dispicable on the face of the planet and I wouldn't pi55 on him if he was on fire. However, I will put aside my feelings towards him in the interest of helping us achieve the best performance in the forthcoming World Cup. I reserve my right to utterly despise him during times when we are not together and for ever more after the World Cup".

maix27

1,070 posts

217 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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TEKNOPUG said:
maix27 said:
What a fool.

Cutting off nose to spite face me thinks...
He needs to grow a pair. Stand up in front of the whole squad on the first day, point to JT and say "This man is the most dispicable on the face of the planet and I wouldn't pi55 on him if he was on fire. However, I will put aside my feelings towards him in the interest of helping us achieve the best performance in the forthcoming World Cup. I reserve my right to utterly despise him during times when we are not together and for ever more after the World Cup".
Exactly that... also, if i were him in 40 years time and my grand kids were asking whether i was part of the world cup winning side (stretch your imagination here folks!) i'd be gutted to say that i let personal issues get in the way of my professional performance.

JT is a proper ass (i'm a chelsea fan too!) but, we all work with asses, you just get on and do it because that's your job.

anonymous-user

75 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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I don't blame him it's very easy to say you'd just put it to oneside, but for the world cup those players will being living in each other pockets for 6 to 8 weeks. If you can do with that with someone you loathe with good reason then fair enough, he's given it proper consideration and decided he can't which is his right.

And as for a realistic chance of winning, don't make me laugh. We've got no decent goalkeeper, rightback, left midfielder, right midfielder if Lennon doesn't get fit, and only one good striker. Spain would wipe the floor with us without breaking sweat!

TEKNOPUG

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20,176 posts

226 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Bluequay said:
I don't blame him it's very easy to say you'd just put it to oneside, but for the world cup those players will being living in each other pockets for 6 to 8 weeks. If you can do with that with someone you loathe with good reason then fair enough, he's given it proper consideration and decided he can't which is his right.

And as for a realistic chance of winning, don't make me laugh. We've got no decent goalkeeper, rightback, left midfielder, right midfielder if Lennon doesn't get fit, and only one good striker. Spain would wipe the floor with us without breaking sweat!
So are you saying that he doesn't want to play in the World Cup because he doesn't think that we'll win it? We're good enough to get to the semi's and anything can happen in a couple of one-off games.

Besides, I think that he will regret his decision for a lot longer than any emotional pain or damaged pride that he currently feels. It seems like quite childish and unprofessional behaviour. If he was 21 and at the beginning of his career, maybe you could understand it. But he's 29! This is his last chance to play (Represent his country) in the worlds biggest sporting event and he's going to miss out over some bit of skirt that he'll get over in a few months anyway.

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

270 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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I think the bloke is being very selfless and acting with dignity, his inclusion could affect the squad in many ways and hype up unneeded negative media attention on the team. Takes a bigger set of balls at times to conduct yourself in a proper manner when unwanted attention centres on you.

MonkeyHanger

9,266 posts

263 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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TEKNOPUG said:
he's going to miss out over some bit of skirt that he'll get over in a few months anyway.
A bit of skirt who happens to be the mother of his kid...every time he picks the kid up for a day out he'll remember what happened.

Good on him i say. He's made Terry look an even bigger prick than he already did. If this had happened in any other work environment JT would probably be sucking his meals through a straw by now.

TEKNOPUG

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20,176 posts

226 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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ZR1cliff said:
I think the bloke is being very selfless and acting with dignity, his inclusion could affect the squad in many ways and hype up unneeded negative media attention on the team. Takes a bigger set of balls at times to conduct yourself in a proper manner when unwanted attention centres on you.
I would have thought that the decision is Mr Capello's to make; one that he gets paid many millions to carefully consider and ultimately be responsible for.

TEKNOPUG

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20,176 posts

226 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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MonkeyHanger said:
TEKNOPUG said:
he's going to miss out over some bit of skirt that he'll get over in a few months anyway.
A bit of skirt who happens to be the mother of his kid...every time he picks the kid up for a day out he'll remember what happened.

Good on him i say. He's made Terry look an even bigger prick than he already did. If this had happened in any other work environment JT would probably be sucking his meals through a straw by now.
People get cheated on, dumped, have their hearts broken all the time. They usually get over it. You don't often get the chance to prove yourself at the pinnacle event of your career. Whatever the reasons for him making the decision, I believe that he will regret it.

elster

17,517 posts

231 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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MonkeyHanger said:
TEKNOPUG said:
he's going to miss out over some bit of skirt that he'll get over in a few months anyway.
A bit of skirt who happens to be the mother of his kid...every time he picks the kid up for a day out he'll remember what happened.

Good on him i say. He's made Terry look an even bigger prick than he already did. If this had happened in any other work environment JT would probably be sucking his meals through a straw by now.
Are people really that fuucked up to think that someone chucking their beans up an ex missus has changed anything?

There were many before him who did the same, there will be many many more after him.

It is a fact of life, get over it.

Lots of people marry, then get divorced, then get new partners. If there are kids involved you will meet the new partners. I just don't get the big deal, thousands and thousands of people do this.

There is only one issue with this whole debacle and that is John Terrys wife.

TEKNOPUG

Original Poster:

20,176 posts

226 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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elster said:
MonkeyHanger said:
TEKNOPUG said:
he's going to miss out over some bit of skirt that he'll get over in a few months anyway.
A bit of skirt who happens to be the mother of his kid...every time he picks the kid up for a day out he'll remember what happened.

Good on him i say. He's made Terry look an even bigger prick than he already did. If this had happened in any other work environment JT would probably be sucking his meals through a straw by now.
Are people really that fuucked up to think that someone chucking their beans up an ex missus has changed anything?

There were many before him who did the same, there will be many many more after him.

It is a fact of life, get over it.

Lots of people marry, then get divorced, then get new partners. If there are kids involved you will meet the new partners. I just don't get the big deal, thousands and thousands of people do this.

There is only one issue with this whole debacle and that is John Terrys wife.
I'm pretty sure that the lawyers sat down with JT's wife and went through the pre-nup that she signed....

elster

17,517 posts

231 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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TEKNOPUG said:
I'm pretty sure that the lawyers sat down with JT's wife and went through the pre-nup that she signed....
Why has the law in the UK changed to make them legal?

anonymous-user

75 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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TEKNOPUG said:
Bluequay said:
I don't blame him it's very easy to say you'd just put it to oneside, but for the world cup those players will being living in each other pockets for 6 to 8 weeks. If you can do with that with someone you loathe with good reason then fair enough, he's given it proper consideration and decided he can't which is his right.

And as for a realistic chance of winning, don't make me laugh. We've got no decent goalkeeper, rightback, left midfielder, right midfielder if Lennon doesn't get fit, and only one good striker. Spain would wipe the floor with us without breaking sweat!
So are you saying that he doesn't want to play in the World Cup because he doesn't think that we'll win it? We're good enough to get to the semi's and anything can happen in a couple of one-off games.

Besides, I think that he will regret his decision for a lot longer than any emotional pain or damaged pride that he currently feels. It seems like quite childish and unprofessional behaviour. If he was 21 and at the beginning of his career, maybe you could understand it. But he's 29! This is his last chance to play (Represent his country) in the worlds biggest sporting event and he's going to miss out over some bit of skirt that he'll get over in a few months anyway.
Where did I say he didn't want to play because we wouldn't win. I gave my reasons why I could understand him not playing, and then went on to state my opinion that we wouldn't win!

I'm sure he's given this plenty of thought, an awful lot more than you or I have certainly. Players retire from international football early all the time, Paul Scholes at under 30 and he obviously hasn't regretted it, or he'd have made himself available again.

TEKNOPUG

Original Poster:

20,176 posts

226 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Bluequay said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Bluequay said:
I don't blame him it's very easy to say you'd just put it to oneside, but for the world cup those players will being living in each other pockets for 6 to 8 weeks. If you can do with that with someone you loathe with good reason then fair enough, he's given it proper consideration and decided he can't which is his right.

And as for a realistic chance of winning, don't make me laugh. We've got no decent goalkeeper, rightback, left midfielder, right midfielder if Lennon doesn't get fit, and only one good striker. Spain would wipe the floor with us without breaking sweat!
So are you saying that he doesn't want to play in the World Cup because he doesn't think that we'll win it? We're good enough to get to the semi's and anything can happen in a couple of one-off games.

Besides, I think that he will regret his decision for a lot longer than any emotional pain or damaged pride that he currently feels. It seems like quite childish and unprofessional behaviour. If he was 21 and at the beginning of his career, maybe you could understand it. But he's 29! This is his last chance to play (Represent his country) in the worlds biggest sporting event and he's going to miss out over some bit of skirt that he'll get over in a few months anyway.
Where did I say he didn't want to play because we wouldn't win. I gave my reasons why I could understand him not playing, and then went on to state my opinion that we wouldn't win!

I'm sure he's given this plenty of thought, an awful lot more than you or I have certainly. Players retire from international football early all the time, Paul Scholes at under 30 and he obviously hasn't regretted it, or he'd have made himself available again.
Scholes retired from international football so that he could continue playing! Completely different.

TEKNOPUG

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20,176 posts

226 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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elster said:
TEKNOPUG said:
I'm pretty sure that the lawyers sat down with JT's wife and went through the pre-nup that she signed....
Why has the law in the UK changed to make them legal?
Good point well made. I'm sure that JT's finances are murkier than the lake in Gorky Park though. Makes his wife look even more stupid though.

elster

17,517 posts

231 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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TEKNOPUG said:
Bluequay said:
Where did I say he didn't want to play because we wouldn't win. I gave my reasons why I could understand him not playing, and then went on to state my opinion that we wouldn't win!

I'm sure he's given this plenty of thought, an awful lot more than you or I have certainly. Players retire from international football early all the time, Paul Scholes at under 30 and he obviously hasn't regretted it, or he'd have made himself available again.
Scholes retired from international football so that he could continue playing! Completely different.
The only reason Bridge is not making himself available is so he doesn't have to see a man who has slipped his ex one.

Which is a bit like kids at school

anonymous-user

75 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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TEKNOPUG said:
Bluequay said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Bluequay said:
I don't blame him it's very easy to say you'd just put it to oneside, but for the world cup those players will being living in each other pockets for 6 to 8 weeks. If you can do with that with someone you loathe with good reason then fair enough, he's given it proper consideration and decided he can't which is his right.

And as for a realistic chance of winning, don't make me laugh. We've got no decent goalkeeper, rightback, left midfielder, right midfielder if Lennon doesn't get fit, and only one good striker. Spain would wipe the floor with us without breaking sweat!
So are you saying that he doesn't want to play in the World Cup because he doesn't think that we'll win it? We're good enough to get to the semi's and anything can happen in a couple of one-off games.

Besides, I think that he will regret his decision for a lot longer than any emotional pain or damaged pride that he currently feels. It seems like quite childish and unprofessional behaviour. If he was 21 and at the beginning of his career, maybe you could understand it. But he's 29! This is his last chance to play (Represent his country) in the worlds biggest sporting event and he's going to miss out over some bit of skirt that he'll get over in a few months anyway.
Where did I say he didn't want to play because we wouldn't win. I gave my reasons why I could understand him not playing, and then went on to state my opinion that we wouldn't win!

I'm sure he's given this plenty of thought, an awful lot more than you or I have certainly. Players retire from international football early all the time, Paul Scholes at under 30 and he obviously hasn't regretted it, or he'd have made himself available again.
Scholes retired from international football so that he could continue playing! Completely different.
It's not different at all it's example that people retire from international football all the time and don't regret it. As a fan we look at football very differently to the players, to them it is a job, and sometimes it's a job they don't like doing and he's chosen not to take on the job of playing at the world cup with JT.

juice

9,540 posts

303 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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TEKNOPUG said:
maix27 said:
What a fool.

Cutting off nose to spite face me thinks...
He needs to grow a pair. Stand up in front of the whole squad on the first day, point to JT and say "This man is the most dispicable on the face of the planet and I wouldn't pi55 on him if he was on fire. However, I will put aside my feelings towards him in the interest of helping us achieve the best performance in the forthcoming World Cup. I reserve my right to utterly despise him during times when we are not together and for ever more after the World Cup".
I can't imagine a footballer saying that...

There's clearly words with multiple syllables there...biggrin