World Track Cycling Championships
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anonymous-user

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76 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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on BBC2 for an hour or so each night starting on Wednesday. well worth watching if you fancy something different and enjoyed the olympics, should see a few GB riders top the podium too....


ewenm

28,506 posts

267 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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thumbup
Looking forward to it.

DJC

23,563 posts

258 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Tonight smile

Ive already done my deals to ensure I get my arse in the Velodrome for the London Olympics.


Im still deciding whether or not to become Victoria Pendleton's official stalker.

bales

1,905 posts

240 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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DJC said:
Tonight smile

Ive already done my deals to ensure I get my arse in the Velodrome for the London Olympics.


Im still deciding whether or not to become Victoria Pendleton's official stalker.
She is quite nice, but i'm not sure I could get past those legs...;



Edited by bales on Wednesday 24th March 13:18

ewenm

28,506 posts

267 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Online and red button now...

Gun

13,432 posts

240 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Victoria Pendleton cloud9

ewenm

28,506 posts

267 months

Thursday 25th March 2010
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Cracking ride from Hoy there clap

DJC

23,563 posts

258 months

Friday 26th March 2010
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Interesting approach from Brailsford.

Blood some youngsters. Giving chris Newton more of a crack at the points and scratch races. Obviously Pendleton is a little off her game at the moment.

Its basically a baselining exercise to see where they are and to plan the Olympic program from here towards 2012.

The Aussies will be loving it because they think they have regained the upper hand, not realising that Brailsford has outmanouvered them so that the target is off the British backs, put the pressure on them and ensured that the Brits are working towards peaking at something, not peaking in between the Olympic cycles.

ewenm

28,506 posts

267 months

Friday 26th March 2010
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I agree, and you can see in the interviews the GB cyclists give that they too understand the strategy - lots of talk about baselines, building blocks, targeting 2012, specialising, etc.

I just wish my sport (athletics) could be just as focused, competitive and communicative, although it's a much bigger sport and much more dispersed, so the GB cycling model doesn't really fit.

DJC

23,563 posts

258 months

Friday 26th March 2010
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ewenm said:
I agree, and you can see in the interviews the GB cyclists give that they too understand the strategy - lots of talk about baselines, building blocks, targeting 2012, specialising, etc.

I just wish my sport (athletics) could be just as focused, competitive and communicative, although it's a much bigger sport and much more dispersed, so the GB cycling model doesn't really fit.
Well it would do if it had someone like Brailsford running it.

But it doesnt.

The trouble is atheltics is widespread and disparate. There would be too much rebellion at what Sweetenham and Brailsford would do. There was enough with Van Com !

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

76 months

Friday 26th March 2010
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DJC said:
ewenm said:
I agree, and you can see in the interviews the GB cyclists give that they too understand the strategy - lots of talk about baselines, building blocks, targeting 2012, specialising, etc.

I just wish my sport (athletics) could be just as focused, competitive and communicative, although it's a much bigger sport and much more dispersed, so the GB cycling model doesn't really fit.
Well it would do if it had someone like Brailsford running it.

But it doesnt.

The trouble is atheltics is widespread and disparate. There would be too much rebellion at what Sweetenham and Brailsford would do. There was enough with Van Com !
it is all track-centric though really, with the money form sky it is now coming into road racing too but disciplines like time trials are a world away. even your short distance club triathlon will have chip timing and some retailer support. sportives now seem to be the way ahead, mass participation and a weakened competitive element. no bad thing though....

ewenm

28,506 posts

267 months

Saturday 27th March 2010
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DJC said:
ewenm said:
I agree, and you can see in the interviews the GB cyclists give that they too understand the strategy - lots of talk about baselines, building blocks, targeting 2012, specialising, etc.

I just wish my sport (athletics) could be just as focused, competitive and communicative, although it's a much bigger sport and much more dispersed, so the GB cycling model doesn't really fit.
Well it would do if it had someone like Brailsford running it.

But it doesnt.

The trouble is atheltics is widespread and disparate. There would be too much rebellion at what Sweetenham and Brailsford would do. There was enough with Van Com !
"Trouble with" or "accessibility of"? wink

The centralised model of swimming/cycling is great, but very difficult/impossible to apply to athletics because of the individual coach-athelte relationship. Swimming/cycling is such a smaller group of competitors that having a single group of coaches at a single base works well. Trying to organise 200-300 athletes at a single base (housing, food, physio, coaching, transport, competition) as compared to 20-30 cyclists or swimmers is an entirely different proposition.

Plus, of course, athletics is a global sport....

DJC

23,563 posts

258 months

Saturday 27th March 2010
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ewenm said:
DJC said:
ewenm said:
I agree, and you can see in the interviews the GB cyclists give that they too understand the strategy - lots of talk about baselines, building blocks, targeting 2012, specialising, etc.

I just wish my sport (athletics) could be just as focused, competitive and communicative, although it's a much bigger sport and much more dispersed, so the GB cycling model doesn't really fit.
Well it would do if it had someone like Brailsford running it.

But it doesnt.

The trouble is atheltics is widespread and disparate. There would be too much rebellion at what Sweetenham and Brailsford would do. There was enough with Van Com !
"Trouble with" or "accessibility of"? wink

The centralised model of swimming/cycling is great, but very difficult/impossible to apply to athletics because of the individual coach-athelte relationship. Swimming/cycling is such a smaller group of competitors that having a single group of coaches at a single base works well. Trying to organise 200-300 athletes at a single base (housing, food, physio, coaching, transport, competition) as compared to 20-30 cyclists or swimmers is an entirely different proposition.

Plus, of course, athletics is a global sport....
Hmmm, with swimming, I didnt think it was from a centralised base. Swimming is much like athletics in that respect, in fact the swimming world is very closely coupled with the athletics world. All the power is in local based clubs and regions. Even when I was doing my club swimming (good grief the best part of 20yrs ago now) the competition was massive rivalry seriously intense. As I understand it Sweetenham focussed on making nucleus groups at regional centres and then for National level drawing them together again. And he encountered massive pushback from the UK swimming world. Eventually though what he wanted started to come through and it was focussed on the coaches. They improved first and then that improved the swim coaching and then the swimming performances of the athletes.

Randy Winkman

20,654 posts

211 months

Sunday 28th March 2010
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That bloke Forstemann's got some thighs!


DJC

23,563 posts

258 months

Sunday 28th March 2010
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Just what exactly is the bloke behind expecting?

Cupid Stunt

528 posts

192 months

Sunday 28th March 2010
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I started watching it before, the slow starts where they're tactically trying to start racing at the right time bores the fk out of me so I turned it off

DJC

23,563 posts

258 months

Monday 29th March 2010
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Thats nice of you.

Now, how about the rest of the events?

ewenm

28,506 posts

267 months

Monday 29th March 2010
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Cupid Stunt said:
I started watching it before, the slow starts where they're tactically trying to start racing at the right time bores the fk out of me so I turned it off
Translated as I don't understand the tactics and my attention span is too short to enjoy itrolleyes

One thing I don't agree with is that they get a restart if one rider crashes - for example, Pendleton's crash in the sprint, why didn't Guo just get given the race? Perhaps have a video replay to determine if it was a mechanical/track failure or rider error, restart if mech/track, lose if rider error.

FamilyGuy

850 posts

212 months

Monday 29th March 2010
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ewenm said:
for example, Pendleton's crash in the sprint
Is that the one where her front wheel just seemed to lift off and pop out sideways? I had the sound off at the time - I'd be grateful if you could tell me what happened?

ewenm

28,506 posts

267 months

Monday 29th March 2010
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FamilyGuy said:
ewenm said:
for example, Pendleton's crash in the sprint
Is that the one where her front wheel just seemed to lift off and pop out sideways? I had the sound off at the time - I'd be grateful if you could tell me what happened?
According to Pendleton herself and the commentators she turned too sharply up the banking and the wheel skittered across the track, throwing her off. It was suggested that the shape of the track (long straights, tight bends) compared to Manchester (shorter straights, longer bends) may have contributed, but rider error in the end.