Recommend me a shotgun
Recommend me a shotgun
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Lefty 200 Drams

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19,598 posts

225 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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I did a piece of work recently outside of normal hours and have just been paid for it. I treat this as "free" money so it's for spending wink Just bought Mrs Drams a new Omega and had a trip to Glendronach today to start spending it.

Anyway, I quite fancy splashing out on a dedicated clay gun (something that my boy can inherit) and looking for some advice. I have two local shops but I'm looking for long-term owners advice, not salesmen.

I've already got a 12b Mossberg 500, a very old 20b english s/s (worth £100 if I'm lucky) and, my best "shooting" gun, a 12b remington s/a.

I've not done much formal clay shooting, a mate has a trap and I've put thousands of cartridges through my guns at his place. I do need some proper lessons though I think! Anyway, the point is, I haven't decided on a specific discipline yet so I don't want anything too specialised.

12b, O/U, probably 30". Multi-choke obviously, probably something fairly traditional (although I saw a chap using a synthetic Browning Cynergy the other day and it looked rather tasty!). Budget around £2k.

Ta



Romanymagic

3,298 posts

242 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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My money would be on a Beretta Silver Pigeon, looking around £1500 to secure!

dfen5

2,398 posts

235 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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Buy what fits you. You'll either end up with a Miroku MK38 or a Beretta Silver pig for that sort of money.

Romanymagic

3,298 posts

242 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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dfen5 said:
Buy what fits you. You'll either end up with a Miroku MK38 or a Beretta Silver pig for that sort of money.
Almost snap! smile

sherman

14,860 posts

238 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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Romanymagic said:
My money would be on a Beretta Silver Pigeon, looking around £1500 to secure!
My dads got a silver pigeon on order just now for £1350 (before trade in).

Edited by sherman on Wednesday 16th June 23:12

Romanymagic

3,298 posts

242 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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sherman said:
Romanymagic said:
My money would be on a Beretta Silver Pigeon, looking around £1500 to secure!
My dads got a silver pigeon on order just now for £1350 (before trade in).

Edited by sherman on Wednesday 16th June 23:12
Bargain, do you know where from?

sherman

14,860 posts

238 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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Romanymagic said:
sherman said:
Romanymagic said:
My money would be on a Beretta Silver Pigeon, looking around £1500 to secure!
My dads got a silver pigeon on order just now for £1350 (before trade in).

Edited by sherman on Wednesday 16th June 23:12
Bargain, do you know where from?
Scotland wink not cluny clays

Edited by sherman on Wednesday 16th June 23:15

NDA

24,675 posts

248 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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Romanymagic said:
My money would be on a Beretta Silver Pigeon, looking around £1500 to secure!
Yep, every time.

I started shooting with a Silver Pigeon many years ago and now have a EELL, thing is, it's exactly the same mechanism. Completely reliable gun, great to shoot.

anonymous-user

77 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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My bettinsoli diamond was good because I bought it new for a bargain price, but it not any thing special or worth recommending.

My dad has a Beretta 686 and it is a fantastic gun, it is designed for clay shooting so it is quite heavy but it means you can shoot all day with out getting a stiff shoulder.

Dont buy new as you will more than likely loose money on it, if you go for a good used one it will more than likely gain value over a few years.

Jovial Joe

371 posts

208 months

Wednesday 16th June 2010
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Hi
Silver Pigeon whilst a good all round gun is a little light for a dedicated clay buster. My money would be on either a MK38 Gr3 or MK60 Universal if you prefer a Browning style action or for a lower profiled gun a secondhand 682 Gold E, Blaser F3 or with a bit of luck you should be able to find a Gamba Daytona around that price point which is a very underated tool.
Alternatively sell a kidney and buy yourself a Perazzi, you know it makes sense.
Regards

sleep envy

62,260 posts

272 months

Thursday 17th June 2010
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Franchi all day long.

Now owned by berreta so their mechanisms are the same but the blueing is far better on the barrels.

My father's one must be 30 years old and it's still tight and looks like new.

Mines about ten years old so barely broken in - gets used in rain, snow and sunshine.


Lefty 200 Drams

Original Poster:

19,598 posts

225 months

Thursday 17th June 2010
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Can anyone explain the difference between a sporter, a field gun and a competition gun to me? Is it just weight or is the sight line different?

smile

sleep envy

62,260 posts

272 months

Thursday 17th June 2010
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Essentially the barrels will be different.

Field guns have the joint filled in which strengthens them as it lives a harder life. The comp guns just have small fillets between the barrels to make them lighter and therefore pointier.

There's other differences but I can't be arsed to get the book out as I'm in the garden enjoying a cider.

Lefty 200 Drams

Original Poster:

19,598 posts

225 months

Thursday 17th June 2010
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Cheers Ric, I'm in the garden enjoying a Peroni Gran Riserva. F'kin lovely smile

You still looking for work btw? My brother-in-law (he's a recruitment bod) is looking for a cost-chap for a subsea contractor near Aberdeen, staff job though...

sleep envy

62,260 posts

272 months

Thursday 17th June 2010
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Foreign muck wink

no, have managed to land myself a cracking position for a boutique practice - some really cool schemes for high end clients

the money is st but it's the first time I'm enjoying my work in over ten years!

Lefty 200 Drams

Original Poster:

19,598 posts

225 months

Thursday 17th June 2010
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Good stuff.

Anyway, thanks for the tip on the gun thing. What Franchi have you got?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

272 months

Thursday 17th June 2010
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One's an alicione which they don't make anymore and the other is a side lock I had commissioned - like a glove...

I went to their factory in Brescia last year and given the choice over one of their guns or a B I'd still have a franchi

if you can find one local to you, even secondhand, I'd suggest you have a look - you'll be surprised

Lefty 200 Drams

Original Poster:

19,598 posts

225 months

Thursday 17th June 2010
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I'll bear it in mind, cheers

smile

LHD

17,002 posts

210 months

Sunday 20th June 2010
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I've got three now, the default Silver Pidgeon that i bought at the game fair last year, a Browning Silver Medalist and a Bettinsoli Diamond Line Delux.

Out of the three i like the Bettinsoli the most, even though it was the cheapest.

However i've never considered a Franchi before...

Jem0911

4,415 posts

224 months

Sunday 20th June 2010
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I shoot a Miroku.
MK6000 teagued and adjustable stock.
Something like that can be used in most forms of clay shooting.
And having an adjustable stock should fit your boy when you hand it down?
On that note the Cynergy (sp) from browning would be great. They offer a wood version.