Fencing (the sport)
Fencing (the sport)
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Benjaminpalma

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1,214 posts

205 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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I fancy trying fencing, and doing a bit of swashbuckling. It looks like good exercise, too - and I'm bored with jogging...

Does anyone do it, here? Is it fun or not?

markmullen

15,877 posts

257 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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Its great fun. I took it up last year and really enjoy it, very good exercise, a good mental sport (the best are not necessarily the fittest or strongest but rather those that think about it more).

Kit is relatively cheap (a Leon Paul starter kit is around £300 for example) when compared with target shooting or golf.

Find yourself a club http://www.britishfencing.com/ ring the organiser and find out when they meet and arrange to go and have a try, just be aware that due to insurance most clubs will ask you have have a membership of British Fencing before you can fence, this can be done through the club for as little as £10, it is around £40 IIRC for full membership which covers you fencing in competitions.

Hobzy

1,271 posts

234 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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I've been doing it for 17 years; Epee and Foil when forced - I had an hamstring injury break for a couple of years about the time we had kids, and not competing again until they are both a bit older, but still love it. Also coach children too. Anything you want to know feel free to drop me an email. Most clubs run taster sessions on a rota so you should be able to have a go and borrow kit for not much.



Edited by Hobzy on Monday 30th August 15:01

Mutley

3,178 posts

282 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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I used to fence, loved it, did foil and sabre.

Foil is the starter, and a good one to carry through once proficient. It is a good bit of exercise, needs quick thinking and a dam good bit of fun!

Doofus

32,896 posts

196 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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I'm a foilist and have been for five years or so. I can't really get on with Epee or Sabre, so because I stick with the Foil, people assume I'm a beginner. That and the fact I'm left-handed mean I can surprise a few opponents...

It's fun, good exercise, different, and makes you sweat like a bd.

Edited by Doofus on Monday 30th August 15:25

Benjaminpalma

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205 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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Thanks, folks!

Doofus said:
It's fun, good exercise, different, and makes you sweat like a bd.
Just what I'm after!

Hobzy

1,271 posts

234 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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Arguments between Epeeists and Foilists are a bit like the ones between Caterham owners and other Seven-alike owners biggrin Like most english fencers I started with foil and only took up Epee when I had to fence it for the Uni team. loved it and stuck with it. I'm going to have a good go at sabre this year to try and improve my footwork and fitness.

He's right about being a lefty though. Luckily I had a left handed coach (RIP Roy frown) but they are still harder to fence for a righty.

Its all about the footwork - like most sports the movement is the key rather than the bladework.

Hobzy

1,271 posts

234 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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Oh and birds look great in fencing kit... unless they are mahoosive biggrin

Benjaminpalma

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Monday 30th August 2010
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Hobzy said:
Oh and birds look great in fencing kit... unless they are mahoosive biggrin


Touché!

Benjaminpalma

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I forgot to ask... does it hurt?!

Hobzy

1,271 posts

234 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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Occasionally. Mainly if being hit by someone with poor technique, but sometimes the blade lands in a spot that doesnt allow it to bend - inside of elbow etc and smarts a bit. More of an issue with Epee though. Thankfully the foil flick hit has been effectively banned by rule changes - they used to really hurt if done badly.

Hits to the nuts clearly make ones eyes water a tad. Women seem to have the uncanny knack of hitting men right on the nipple for some reason... Women have plastic chest protectors and some men wear a plastic chest guard.

Benjaminpalma

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1,214 posts

205 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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Hobzy said:
Occasionally. Mainly if being hit by someone with poor technique, but sometimes the blade lands in a spot that doesnt allow it to bend - inside of elbow etc and smarts a bit. More of an issue with Epee though. Thankfully the foil flick hit has been effectively banned by rule changes - they used to really hurt if done badly.

Hits to the nuts clearly make ones eyes water a tad. Women seem to have the uncanny knack of hitting men right on the nipple for some reason... Women have plastic chest protectors and some men wear a plastic chest guard.
Ow! Don't chaps wear a box as they do in cricket, to protect one's nuts?!

markmullen

15,877 posts

257 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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I wore a box before I bought the proper breeches but find that the breeches, in partnership with the crotch strap of my jacket, do the job well enough. Anyway the aim is only to land the hit, not to try and run your opponent through so most aren't that forceful.

Doofus

32,896 posts

196 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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Hobzy said:
Arguments between Epeeists and Foilists are a bit like the ones between show-offs and artists biggrin
EFA

Hozby said:
Its all about the footwork - like most sports the movement is the key rather than the bladework.
And a Flickmaster blade helps too... wink

Hobzy

1,271 posts

234 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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Doofus said:
Hobzy said:
Arguments between Epeeists and Foilists are a bit like the ones between swordsmen and flyfishermen biggrin
EFMA
blah

Gretchen

19,615 posts

239 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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Doofus said:
I'm a foilist and have been for five years or so. I can't really get on with Epee or Sabre, so because I stick with the Foil, people assume I'm a beginner. That and the fact I'm left-handed mean I can surprise a few opponents...

It's fun, good exercise, different, and makes you sweat like a bd.

Edited by Doofus on Monday 30th August 15:25
My two youngest boys (7 & 9) have been asking to take this up recently.


Was worried about 9 year old as is a lefty, does this make him harder to coach/learn?

Have found a club locally and a 10 week course is £60, including all use of equipment, etc.

Will hopefully get them in for a taster next month.





Benjaminpalma

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205 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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Hobzy said:
Doofus said:
Hobzy said:
Arguments between Epeeists and Foilists are a bit like the ones between swordsmen and flyfishermen biggrin
EFMA
blah
Are foils for panzies, then? I want to use something that looks like a sword!

Hobzy

1,271 posts

234 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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Benjaminpalma said:
Hobzy said:
Doofus said:
Hobzy said:
Arguments between Epeeists and Foilists are a bit like the ones between swordsmen and flyfishermen biggrin
EFMA
blah
Are foils for panzies, then? I want to use something that looks like a sword!
NO,NO,NO,NO, just a sort of in joke. Everyone starts with a foil. (a few clubs start with Epee but few and far between).

Its lighter, and doesn't resemble any "real" sword. Its purely a sport weapon. Good foilists are unbelievable to watch - fast precise and very very fit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi1wst9VYz4&fea...

Epee is loosely based on the Rapier. Heavier and the whole body is the target area. Often slower paced matches and more tactical as both fencers can score at the same time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF2684mtchs

Sabreurs are just mental biggrin

You'll find all this out on your first session... enjoy!

Nightmare

5,277 posts

307 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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Hobzy said:
Occasionally. Mainly if being hit by someone with poor technique, but sometimes the blade lands in a spot that doesnt allow it to bend - inside of elbow etc and smarts a bit. More of an issue with Epee though. Thankfully the foil flick hit has been effectively banned by rule changes - they used to really hurt if done badly.
what change have they made? have to admit haven't kept up with rules in last few years....going to start again this week smile
foil is fun, but epee is proper.

Gretchen - it wont make any difference to teaching him but will make him harder to fence against cos there are less of em

Hobzy

1,271 posts

234 months

Monday 30th August 2010
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what change have they made? have to admit haven't kept up with rules in last few years....going to start again this week smile
foil is fun, but epee is proper.

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Doofus will give you a better answer I suspect, but they have changed the timing on the box so the foil point must be depressed longer I believe. Happened during my time out for injury - was most nobbed off as I had just mastered it... came back and hand to fence properly wink Still, my maraging Epee does a lovely flick to wrist biggrin so not all is lost.

To be fair the changes were needed - it was getting silly at competitions with arms flailing all over the place. It was lovely to watch or fence someone who flicked well, but painful and frustrating to fence those who used it with no panache or finesse. All you had to do was have the balls to step in (if you timed it right.)