Rugger Bugger vs. Badminton for calories/fitness
Discussion
Option 1; You're a prop playing to a good standard
Option 2; You're a top county badminton player
Who is going to burn off more calories in a given time? Or who is going to burn more calories over the course of a match? Let's say an 80 minute game of rugby or a badminton match consisting of 6x games to 21?
We're not talking your leisure centre hit it back and forth over the net.
My view is that the badminton player with their constant change of direction etc etc would burn more than prop getting involved in a scrum and not really doing much running (from having watched my colleague play!).
Option 2; You're a top county badminton player
Who is going to burn off more calories in a given time? Or who is going to burn more calories over the course of a match? Let's say an 80 minute game of rugby or a badminton match consisting of 6x games to 21?
We're not talking your leisure centre hit it back and forth over the net.
My view is that the badminton player with their constant change of direction etc etc would burn more than prop getting involved in a scrum and not really doing much running (from having watched my colleague play!).
Badminton to a good standard (meaning your opponent is useful and will be pressuring you) would probably burn more calories over the same given period.
That said, I wouldn't think there's much in it, as being a prop is a 'driving' postion, so I guess he's a big guy? It's usually short sharp bursts of power, badders is more sustained.
That said, I wouldn't think there's much in it, as being a prop is a 'driving' postion, so I guess he's a big guy? It's usually short sharp bursts of power, badders is more sustained.
Used to play Prop at County and Schools level, then semi-pro.
At the time i was 19stone and 17% body fat (so a bit lardarsed but nowhere near as much as now). Trained 4 days/week and played matches at least once per week.
Average calorific requirement to maintain body mass was 6400cal per day.
it was calculated that a full 80 minute match consumed around 2100 calories if i was working hard, and around 1800 calories if i was being lazy and not pushing in scrums.
The key difference is probably that most badmingston players are lighter- i would take a good guess that i couldn't sustain the intensity of playing a badmington match at the top level of people- evn at my fittest i couldn't play professional squash- and i could happily run a half marathon!
What i'm trynig to say is that because of my size and weight i couldn't physically play a top game of badminton- but then a badminton player couldn't safeul play in my rugby position. In absolute terms i'm 100% confident that i would have burned more calories, but in relative terms (ie calories bruned /kg of body mass i'm not sure- i would suspect that rugby would take slightly more, but doubt its a huge amount.)
At the time i was 19stone and 17% body fat (so a bit lardarsed but nowhere near as much as now). Trained 4 days/week and played matches at least once per week.
Average calorific requirement to maintain body mass was 6400cal per day.
it was calculated that a full 80 minute match consumed around 2100 calories if i was working hard, and around 1800 calories if i was being lazy and not pushing in scrums.
The key difference is probably that most badmingston players are lighter- i would take a good guess that i couldn't sustain the intensity of playing a badmington match at the top level of people- evn at my fittest i couldn't play professional squash- and i could happily run a half marathon!
What i'm trynig to say is that because of my size and weight i couldn't physically play a top game of badminton- but then a badminton player couldn't safeul play in my rugby position. In absolute terms i'm 100% confident that i would have burned more calories, but in relative terms (ie calories bruned /kg of body mass i'm not sure- i would suspect that rugby would take slightly more, but doubt its a huge amount.)
Edited by pugwash4x4 on Friday 22 October 13:59
So this guy is a 19 stone prop, he'd probably burn more calories than me playing badminton like I do, and he'd also burn more playing rugby that I would. Thats because he's a 19 stone 6ft 4 mountain and I'm 5ft 10 and 12.5 stone.
However, he'd never be able to keep up with my standard, and I'd get crushed in his position.
I still think that as a workout, badminton is better per hour.
However, he'd never be able to keep up with my standard, and I'd get crushed in his position.
I still think that as a workout, badminton is better per hour.
TonyHetherington said:
Harry Flashman said:
Rugby player will get more ladies than the badinton guy from talking about his sport too, so more bonk based calorie benefits there too.
You are, unfortunately, correct 
).I used to play rugby at number 8 and flanker weight ranged from 16-19 stone note mainly 17. Trained at the club twice a week with our fitness coach nicknamed killer for his training schedule and then weights for two nights as well.
Anyway I decided tp stop playing and took up squash - played a bit as a kid but hadn't played in 15 odd years. Still I just joined my local club and went in the lowest ladder league. I played 4 times a week first month I was in bits getting to near passing out during a game. However after three months I was just under 13 stone and had gone up 3 ladder leagues. Changed once per month.
I didn't change my diet in anyway and while playing squash did nothing more but those 4games a week. So for me it burned much more calories.
I have played badminton too and it doesn't push you as hard as squash does. Squash is so intense moreso than badminton in my experiance - still I enjoy games of both.
Sadly only watch rugby these days got fed up with idiots in games just turning up wanting to hurt you not play the game. Ie going into work many times black eyes , bag snatching ouch &why. Sod it.
Anyway I decided tp stop playing and took up squash - played a bit as a kid but hadn't played in 15 odd years. Still I just joined my local club and went in the lowest ladder league. I played 4 times a week first month I was in bits getting to near passing out during a game. However after three months I was just under 13 stone and had gone up 3 ladder leagues. Changed once per month.
I didn't change my diet in anyway and while playing squash did nothing more but those 4games a week. So for me it burned much more calories.
I have played badminton too and it doesn't push you as hard as squash does. Squash is so intense moreso than badminton in my experiance - still I enjoy games of both.
Sadly only watch rugby these days got fed up with idiots in games just turning up wanting to hurt you not play the game. Ie going into work many times black eyes , bag snatching ouch &why. Sod it.
As a rugby, badminton and squash bloke ive got to agree with the Beef here. If you are any good at badminton then you can keep your court area down to quite a small footprint. Going up the grades doesnt actually change that much, it is the speed that changes...monumentally so.
Squash works you all over the court. Im impressed anyone can do 4 matches a week regularly and a normal working life and not spend the rest of their life with knees packed with ice. My weekly regime used to be a cpl of 5 a side matches each week, 1 full size 11 a side once a fortnight, volleyball one night a week, badminton one night a week and squash one night a week. Now at the age of 34 my ankles are shot to the point that my Osteo wife has banned me from playing football, I might play badders once a fortnight and a few volleyball games during the summer and I need my cars to be autos in future.
Rugby gave me a deformed coxix in my late teens.
Of the lot Id plonk swimming at the top. God I hated swim training with a passion back in the day. I mean really really hated it. Swim coaches are evil and malicious, low level training days, even at teenage level are 3-4000Cal days.
Squash works you all over the court. Im impressed anyone can do 4 matches a week regularly and a normal working life and not spend the rest of their life with knees packed with ice. My weekly regime used to be a cpl of 5 a side matches each week, 1 full size 11 a side once a fortnight, volleyball one night a week, badminton one night a week and squash one night a week. Now at the age of 34 my ankles are shot to the point that my Osteo wife has banned me from playing football, I might play badders once a fortnight and a few volleyball games during the summer and I need my cars to be autos in future.
Rugby gave me a deformed coxix in my late teens.
Of the lot Id plonk swimming at the top. God I hated swim training with a passion back in the day. I mean really really hated it. Swim coaches are evil and malicious, low level training days, even at teenage level are 3-4000Cal days.
I used to be able to walk to work however after squash the usual 7min walk would take best part of double that. Totally in pieces.
By the end I was able to play three games against fresh opposition mates ie full 40 mins and I recall on the third game he was bent over gasping for air barely twenty mins in and I was still going. I did find I'd eat a banana or two and lucosade orange one per 40mins and bottles of water.
Then go to watch the really good STD and they were on a different level of ability and fitness truely were. I tried playing againinst the poorest from the top league and it was truely child v pro. Thing is at the time the Ozzie #1 used to train at our courts and played for ahem a little cash to make it worth his while the best of our top ladder league which was very good were about as good as I was against them. Such a gulf of difference.
Highly entertaining.
Also I recall back in the 90's there were two Pakistani high tankers in the world and their main tactic was to not kill the gae keep it going and going to the point their opponent could and sometimes did pass out black out on court. To me that is utter hardcore.
That said I always argue that say rowers sprinters etc just one row step over that finish line they should be passing out that's when you have nothing left to give.
By the end I was able to play three games against fresh opposition mates ie full 40 mins and I recall on the third game he was bent over gasping for air barely twenty mins in and I was still going. I did find I'd eat a banana or two and lucosade orange one per 40mins and bottles of water.
Then go to watch the really good STD and they were on a different level of ability and fitness truely were. I tried playing againinst the poorest from the top league and it was truely child v pro. Thing is at the time the Ozzie #1 used to train at our courts and played for ahem a little cash to make it worth his while the best of our top ladder league which was very good were about as good as I was against them. Such a gulf of difference.
Highly entertaining.
Also I recall back in the 90's there were two Pakistani high tankers in the world and their main tactic was to not kill the gae keep it going and going to the point their opponent could and sometimes did pass out black out on court. To me that is utter hardcore.
That said I always argue that say rowers sprinters etc just one row step over that finish line they should be passing out that's when you have nothing left to give.
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