Which martial art for self defence?
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I've been training in Wado Ryu (a form of Karate) for 6 months and can recommend it.
If you're currently doing weights for gains, there's a good possibility this will be counter productive for gaining muscle due to overworking the muscles.
I substituted cardio to do this
As per above though, runnning is always the first option.
If you're currently doing weights for gains, there's a good possibility this will be counter productive for gaining muscle due to overworking the muscles.
I substituted cardio to do this
As per above though, runnning is always the first option.
Edited by I Love Lamp on Monday 8th November 17:38
Muzzlehatch said:
Try Aikido or Wing Chun.
Other than that, learn to run fast!
Id stick with running fast if ou chose either of those two! Other than that, learn to run fast!
For my 2 cents (21 years of Judo, a few years of BJJ) I'd say if its more than one on one youre f
ked regardless of what you know unless your handy with your fists and lucky that one of them doesnt tt you first or tts you while youre ttting his pal. For punching you want boxing or Muay Thai.BJJ for self defence is crap, they have great intricate submissions on the floor which is where most fights end up but they dont train takedowns so they are just as likely to end up on the floor in bad position and get smacked in the chops. Judo will train you in takedowns and allow you to rag doll idiots onto the floor where you can then do what you want to them, assuming youve not broken them already by throwing them.
Aikido can be good but half the time its just s
tty wrist locks and things which, if youre steven segal, might work, but if youre getting mugged you wont be calm, you'll be stting yourself and all those cool wrists locks you tried with your very accomodating partner will go out of the window.I know a guy who is supposedly a Wing Chun master. He got the piss knocked out of him by a wee junkie mugger.
Dont do TKD its useless.
Karate can be good if you find a proper club, theres hardly any though, theyre all McDojos that give black belts to 6 year olds for learning some dance moves. They throw stupid punches too.
Krav is supposedly great, I dont know much about it, seems to just be adding eye gouging and nasty stuff to traditional MA's though. Plus they dont compete so the standard wont be as high as in a competitive martial art. Fact.
Top thing though, you say youre not interested in the sporting side of martial arts. I will guarantee you that if you train any martial art for 10 years and another guy trains it for 3 but competes, when you both get mugged the guy who competes will be the one who will know what to do under the pressure of a fight. Sure, a Judo competition or whatever isnt like a mugging but you get the same adrenaline rush when youre facing someone who wants to throw you on your back and break your arms, or in Muay thai, want to break your orbital bones and Jaw.
deevlash said:
Krav is supposedly great, I dont know much about it, seems to just be adding eye gouging and nasty stuff to traditional MA's though. Plus they dont compete so the standard wont be as high as in a competitive martial art. Fact.
I recently added KM to my portfolio (funnily enough I'm teaching a two part course over the next two weekends in firearms and knife defence).I would only really suggest its learning after some grounding in another martial art. The reason being that range/timing etc are of paramount importance in Krav. Unfortunately, most KM students, imho, are looking for a quick route to bad-ass-ness and don't want to spend hours getting their range and timing right for their strikes (which are fundamental in Krav, more so than the fancy disarms).
Learning Krav is easy...really easy. It's the implementation that is difficult.
Like all martial arts, how you practice is often more important than what you know when it comes to its use out in the big bad world. On my instructors course, quite rightly, we helmetted up and properly went at it, no holds barred. I very much doubt that a competitive M/A-ist from virtually any other discipline trains like that. I've never seen it, outside of some super trad clubs where being a little insane is a pre-requisite for entry (Old school karate and kung-fu predom.).
The problem for everyone starting out in martial arts is that no sane instructor will allow new students to train like this for some time, if ever.
My instinct tells me that a striking art is a good precursor to KM. Disarms are lovely and showy but the strikes that often make them successful are more important'cos often we put ourselves in the situation where we might get punched/have to punch in order to remove that weapon. Securing the weapon at all costs, type of thing. If you can't give/take a few effective blows, the disarms become irrelevant.
as Bruce Lee said
"the art of fighting without fighting"
failing that I did Lau Gar Kung Fu http://www.laugar-kungfu.com/index.asp all through secondary school and into collage years too
I never got any grief
"the art of fighting without fighting"
failing that I did Lau Gar Kung Fu http://www.laugar-kungfu.com/index.asp all through secondary school and into collage years too
I never got any grief
sinizter said:
Krav Maga
Another vote for KM here, I did some others (JJ) but KM goes to the basics of fighting, over and over again.You don't want to know eleventy holds when somebody comes at you with a baseball bat.
Anyway, I've never put myself in a position where I need to use it.
y2blade said:
as Bruce Lee said
"the art of fighting without fighting"
failing that I did Lau Gar Kung Fu http://www.laugar-kungfu.com/index.asp all through secondary school and into collage years too
I never got any grief
How did you get on with Lau?"the art of fighting without fighting"
failing that I did Lau Gar Kung Fu http://www.laugar-kungfu.com/index.asp all through secondary school and into collage years too
I never got any grief
Who was your instructor?
Was there anything about it you disliked?
Martial Arts Man said:
y2blade said:
as Bruce Lee said
"the art of fighting without fighting"
failing that I did Lau Gar Kung Fu http://www.laugar-kungfu.com/index.asp all through secondary school and into collage years too
I never got any grief
How did you get on with Lau?"the art of fighting without fighting"
failing that I did Lau Gar Kung Fu http://www.laugar-kungfu.com/index.asp all through secondary school and into collage years too
I never got any grief
Who was your instructor?
Was there anything about it you disliked?
Gordon Mitchell and Steve (I cant for the life of me recall his surname)
nope
y2blade said:
Martial Arts Man said:
y2blade said:
as Bruce Lee said
"the art of fighting without fighting"
failing that I did Lau Gar Kung Fu http://www.laugar-kungfu.com/index.asp all through secondary school and into collage years too
I never got any grief
How did you get on with Lau?"the art of fighting without fighting"
failing that I did Lau Gar Kung Fu http://www.laugar-kungfu.com/index.asp all through secondary school and into collage years too
I never got any grief
Who was your instructor?
Was there anything about it you disliked?
Gordon Mitchell and Steve (I cant for the life of me recall his surname)
nope
Martial Arts Man said:
y2blade said:
Martial Arts Man said:
y2blade said:
as Bruce Lee said
"the art of fighting without fighting"
failing that I did Lau Gar Kung Fu http://www.laugar-kungfu.com/index.asp all through secondary school and into collage years too
I never got any grief
How did you get on with Lau?"the art of fighting without fighting"
failing that I did Lau Gar Kung Fu http://www.laugar-kungfu.com/index.asp all through secondary school and into collage years too
I never got any grief
Who was your instructor?
Was there anything about it you disliked?
Gordon Mitchell and Steve (I cant for the life of me recall his surname)
nope
both were nice guys and very good instructors
y2blade said:
Martial Arts Man said:
y2blade said:
Martial Arts Man said:
y2blade said:
as Bruce Lee said
"the art of fighting without fighting"
failing that I did Lau Gar Kung Fu http://www.laugar-kungfu.com/index.asp all through secondary school and into collage years too
I never got any grief
How did you get on with Lau?"the art of fighting without fighting"
failing that I did Lau Gar Kung Fu http://www.laugar-kungfu.com/index.asp all through secondary school and into collage years too
I never got any grief
Who was your instructor?
Was there anything about it you disliked?
Gordon Mitchell and Steve (I cant for the life of me recall his surname)
nope
both were nice guys and very good instructors
Was only asking as Yau is a close family friend and I know most of the LG guys pretty well. Just being nosey
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