Air Conditioning Won't Hold
Discussion
Hi All, I have an 89' non-SE and I can't get the Air Conditioning to hold a charge. It lasts about 2 days. I know I've read here before about 'O' Ring problems but the archives search would'nt show anything. Can anyone give me some advice about changing them, the make of compressor etc. Thanks for your help, Kenny
I would think you need to find out where it's leaking before replacing a bunch of parts. Take it to a reputable a/c specialist and let them diagnose your problem which will be a lot easier and cheaper in the long run unless you are experienced in working on a/c problems and have all the necessary tools.
Jim
Jim
ING IDIOTS>>>>>>>>>>>> YES I AM YELLING>> The compressor is a Sanden Corp SD-508. O rings are at the hose connections to the compressor, and I assume at the drier and coils as well.
Some people need to realize when they are being manipulated by wealthy interests with ulterior motives. CFC's are HUGE molecules that are very un-reactive. The EPA says: These huge heavy molecules cause dangerous conditions by hanging out at the ground when released, displacing O2 that people need to breath. Then these huge, heavy sinking molecules rise up to the stratosphere. They are so unreactive, that they stay up there for 100 years, not reacting and breaking down. Oh, and while up there not reacting and breaking down, they react with the Ozone layer, turning it back into oxygen.
My theory on what really happened: Freon was selling for a buck a pound, retail. Dupont was getting nothing for it. So, "outlaw" it and people will have to buy much more expensive replacements that Dupont (and others) can make more money on. Throw some junk science in along with an observed "hole" in the ozone layer that may or may not be natural and may or may not have been there since time began and there you have it.
Oh, and the R134A stuff has no ozone depeating effect what-so-ever. However, it is controlled because it is a "greenhouse gas," much like the carbon-di-oxide you are exhaleing as you read this. So, R134A has to be captured and regulated as well, and they (EPA) have it on schedule to not allow anyone to just go to Wally world and buy it. I think that if the environmentalists that are worried about the greenhouse gas effect of all the R134A out there would simply stop breathing for, say, about 15 minutes, that the world would be much better off and we would all have much less greenhouse gasses out there to slow down our progression to the next ice age.
Bojangles, don't believe everything you hear. In fact, you can disbelieve everything you hear in the media and probably come out further ahead than believing everything.
Dr.Hess
Some people need to realize when they are being manipulated by wealthy interests with ulterior motives. CFC's are HUGE molecules that are very un-reactive. The EPA says: These huge heavy molecules cause dangerous conditions by hanging out at the ground when released, displacing O2 that people need to breath. Then these huge, heavy sinking molecules rise up to the stratosphere. They are so unreactive, that they stay up there for 100 years, not reacting and breaking down. Oh, and while up there not reacting and breaking down, they react with the Ozone layer, turning it back into oxygen.
My theory on what really happened: Freon was selling for a buck a pound, retail. Dupont was getting nothing for it. So, "outlaw" it and people will have to buy much more expensive replacements that Dupont (and others) can make more money on. Throw some junk science in along with an observed "hole" in the ozone layer that may or may not be natural and may or may not have been there since time began and there you have it.
Oh, and the R134A stuff has no ozone depeating effect what-so-ever. However, it is controlled because it is a "greenhouse gas," much like the carbon-di-oxide you are exhaleing as you read this. So, R134A has to be captured and regulated as well, and they (EPA) have it on schedule to not allow anyone to just go to Wally world and buy it. I think that if the environmentalists that are worried about the greenhouse gas effect of all the R134A out there would simply stop breathing for, say, about 15 minutes, that the world would be much better off and we would all have much less greenhouse gasses out there to slow down our progression to the next ice age.
Bojangles, don't believe everything you hear. In fact, you can disbelieve everything you hear in the media and probably come out further ahead than believing everything.
Dr.Hess
Hey Dr.Hess.... good points. I'd like to add, with the backing of several 'certified' guys from several dealerships and independent shops...
Drummmmmm rolllllll..... ding! Surprize!
The two different types of refigerent R-12 and R-134 (or rather 13.4) are compatable eonough to mix with very little sides effects.
You have hit the nail so to speak...MONEY. It is all about the MONEY.
FACT: (most "enviros" fail to recognize and the EPA ignors all together) Almost all desil burning trucks will burn JP4 or JP5 about 80% cleaner than diesil. Are they regulated to have to burn the clean stuff? Nope. Why? Long haul trucker union lobby is very strong.
Drive topless!!!
Cameron
>> Edited by Autocross7 on Friday 30th July 02:01
>> Edited by Autocross7 on Friday 30th July 17:36
>> Edited by Autocross7 on Friday 30th July 17:55
Drummmmmm rolllllll..... ding! Surprize!
The two different types of refigerent R-12 and R-134 (or rather 13.4) are compatable eonough to mix with very little sides effects.
You have hit the nail so to speak...MONEY. It is all about the MONEY.
FACT: (most "enviros" fail to recognize and the EPA ignors all together) Almost all desil burning trucks will burn JP4 or JP5 about 80% cleaner than diesil. Are they regulated to have to burn the clean stuff? Nope. Why? Long haul trucker union lobby is very strong.
Drive topless!!!
Cameron
>> Edited by Autocross7 on Friday 30th July 02:01
>> Edited by Autocross7 on Friday 30th July 17:36
>> Edited by Autocross7 on Friday 30th July 17:55
holy cow why is it every american feels that they have priority over the environment.
I am an engineer that works in the automotive industry. I know enough about controlled substances and chemicals and gasses and what the goverment controls, to have a fair opinion about this.
If you have filled the system with gas ( even more thanonce ) and it is gone after 2 days that means you have a leak jackass...
fix the leak before filling it with the refrigerant. they can put nitrogen in there and see if it leaks. when it stays in there without leaking only then you fill it up. Then you also include a dye anytime you fil the system so you can find the actual leak. It is common practice to do this.
THere is no way an grown adult with a high school education should be ignorant enough to just waste a controlled substance like that. the work is simple and common.
You are a jerk for what you did and for your reply to me.
Bruce
I am an engineer that works in the automotive industry. I know enough about controlled substances and chemicals and gasses and what the goverment controls, to have a fair opinion about this.
If you have filled the system with gas ( even more thanonce ) and it is gone after 2 days that means you have a leak jackass...
fix the leak before filling it with the refrigerant. they can put nitrogen in there and see if it leaks. when it stays in there without leaking only then you fill it up. Then you also include a dye anytime you fil the system so you can find the actual leak. It is common practice to do this.
THere is no way an grown adult with a high school education should be ignorant enough to just waste a controlled substance like that. the work is simple and common.
You are a jerk for what you did and for your reply to me.
Bruce
and Dr Hess dont call your self a dr if you are ignorring the education system that teaches us to use fact and not opinion to make decisions.
that was a huge bunch of malarky and just undid years of science by one ignorant set of remarks
the stuff is not good for the atmosphere. it is a chemical that has know reactions and very well doccumented effects. Huge companies do not do like you say - why would they still sell aspirin if the world works like you say?
sheesh
that was a huge bunch of malarky and just undid years of science by one ignorant set of remarks
the stuff is not good for the atmosphere. it is a chemical that has know reactions and very well doccumented effects. Huge companies do not do like you say - why would they still sell aspirin if the world works like you say?
sheesh
bojangles said:
holy cow why is it every american feels that they have priority over the environment.
I am an engineer that works in the automotive industry. I know enough about controlled substances and chemicals and gasses and what the goverment controls, to have a fair opinion about this.
If you have filled the system with gas ( even more thanonce ) and it is gone after 2 days that means you have a leak jackass...
fix the leak before filling it with the refrigerant. they can put nitrogen in there and see if it leaks. when it stays in there without leaking only then you fill it up. Then you also include a dye anytime you fil the system so you can find the actual leak. It is common practice to do this.
THere is no way an grown adult with a high school education should be ignorant enough to just waste a controlled substance like that. the work is simple and common.
You are a jerk for what you did and for your reply to me.
Bruce
...gotta agree a bit here. Other than the stuff shouldn't be "contolled" out of buying at Wally world 'cause the feds think it's better that way'...
It should not be wasted. Find the leak. Fix it.
If nothing else, it will be less trouble than "topping up" every two days. That is common and simple. Knowing how and the best way is not common for most people in the US. We buy em' drive. Frustrates the hell out of me people do not know cars any more. Worse, most do not take the time to learn. At least all of "us" here seem to want to learn!
I am for helping the environment in most cases... I guess my point is that what is regulated is what is in the best interest of the Lobby out there and not always the environment....
I think everyone is having a bad day?
Drive topless!!!
Cameron
>> Edited by Autocross7 on Friday 30th July 17:35
As I sit on my gala keg of R12 bought just b4 the BIG $$ hike; I am environmently friendly due to economics. It would be a shame to see all those $$ evaporate away. That's why we properly evacuate a/c systems and ensure they maintain vacuum b4 charging. Seems a reasonable way to conserve limited resources.
One must wonder however, how a compound so awful to the environment is still lawfully used in hvac systems, aerosols and other propellants around the world. Guess it's that pretty green it turns when burnt that keeps it in vogue. Oops that's phosgene gas or something if I recall. I am sure freon is still used to power horns at sporting matches somewhere in the back nine.
It all boils down to awareness and education. Most people believe that what you can't smell or see can't hurt you. Then along comes Sarin and our thinking evolves. Guess we all need to do our little bit when we can to help mother earth.
Before anyone plays with pressurized gases they should do the required reading to ensure that the materials are being safely stored, handled and applied in a responsible manner. Can't be much harm in that.
On the flip side, I do notice a new drop-in replacement refrigerant being marketed in north america. The 'kit' includes a couple adapter fittings, charge hose and gauge and two 1 lb cans of refrigerant. Unfortunately it is sold over the counter for the DIY to apply. I wonder how many of those cans go up into the stratosphere before the owner realizes he/she needs to get the system professionally diagnosed/serviced.
Has anyone noticed that this forum is getting to be more philosophical lately? Next we'll start complaining that our cars burn too much fuel. I wonder if mine would run well on JP5? I'll sneak up on a parked F-18 tonight and siphon out a few gallons. Nah, too dangerous, I'll settle for JP4 out of a civilian craft.
Steve
One must wonder however, how a compound so awful to the environment is still lawfully used in hvac systems, aerosols and other propellants around the world. Guess it's that pretty green it turns when burnt that keeps it in vogue. Oops that's phosgene gas or something if I recall. I am sure freon is still used to power horns at sporting matches somewhere in the back nine.
It all boils down to awareness and education. Most people believe that what you can't smell or see can't hurt you. Then along comes Sarin and our thinking evolves. Guess we all need to do our little bit when we can to help mother earth.
Before anyone plays with pressurized gases they should do the required reading to ensure that the materials are being safely stored, handled and applied in a responsible manner. Can't be much harm in that.
On the flip side, I do notice a new drop-in replacement refrigerant being marketed in north america. The 'kit' includes a couple adapter fittings, charge hose and gauge and two 1 lb cans of refrigerant. Unfortunately it is sold over the counter for the DIY to apply. I wonder how many of those cans go up into the stratosphere before the owner realizes he/she needs to get the system professionally diagnosed/serviced.
Has anyone noticed that this forum is getting to be more philosophical lately? Next we'll start complaining that our cars burn too much fuel. I wonder if mine would run well on JP5? I'll sneak up on a parked F-18 tonight and siphon out a few gallons. Nah, too dangerous, I'll settle for JP4 out of a civilian craft.
Steve
Well put Dr. Hess, but don't think you will get anywhere with Bojangles. I tried that route once and only got the "bad mean stupid Americans" thing. Its best to just concede that Bojangles is smarter than everyone else and watch for the same reaction everytime someone comes here looking for assistance with an a/c problem, but instead gets admonished and yelled at.
XJSJAG, I had a similar problem after my S4 was in storage for almost a year. Since I "depleted the ozone" by recharging my system with 2 cans of R-12, I havn't had any problems. I have been told by a couple a/c professionals (no doubt they aren't up to Bojangles level of brainpower however) that occasional running of the a/c, even in the winter, will keep the O rings lubricated with the proper amount of oil and will keep them from leaking as they dry out. Call me crazy, but it seems to be the case for me!
John
94 S4
XJSJAG, I had a similar problem after my S4 was in storage for almost a year. Since I "depleted the ozone" by recharging my system with 2 cans of R-12, I havn't had any problems. I have been told by a couple a/c professionals (no doubt they aren't up to Bojangles level of brainpower however) that occasional running of the a/c, even in the winter, will keep the O rings lubricated with the proper amount of oil and will keep them from leaking as they dry out. Call me crazy, but it seems to be the case for me!
John
94 S4
good thing you got the point ............
just dont fill a known leaking system - that is the point, if it is empty or low have someone check it before filling it. The checks are simple, inexpensive and effective.
THe owners manual even tells you to run the AC in the winter. ( well i dont have mine for the lotus ) but for every other car i have, the practice is common.
I do not clain superiour intelligence. But I do like to show what the rest of the world sees as stereotypes, are well founded.
The europeans and english tend not to be so blind and selfish about the environment.
Canadians are shomewhere in the middle. Some say that we are more sensitive about our own country but there are still pop cans and mcdonalds wrappers all along our highways too.
just dont fill a known leaking system - that is the point, if it is empty or low have someone check it before filling it. The checks are simple, inexpensive and effective.
THe owners manual even tells you to run the AC in the winter. ( well i dont have mine for the lotus ) but for every other car i have, the practice is common.
I do not clain superiour intelligence. But I do like to show what the rest of the world sees as stereotypes, are well founded.
The europeans and english tend not to be so blind and selfish about the environment.
Canadians are shomewhere in the middle. Some say that we are more sensitive about our own country but there are still pop cans and mcdonalds wrappers all along our highways too.
The "stupid American" thing was just too much. Tipped his hand there. Truth and logic are useless with people like that. Reminds me of my aunt, now living in Canada and listening to the Canadian media and goverment. She told my mother, her sister, now living in the L.A. area "I just hate those Americans" around the time we were wooping some sandie butt in Afganistan and the Canadian goverment and media were in full swing against us. My mother thought, "Well, you didn't hate them after the war (WWII) in Holland when you were literally starving to death and they brought their egg powder and saved your life."
Steve, JP4 and JP5 (JP4 is more explosive, but gives the jets more oomph) work just fine in a Diesel motor, but not in a gasoline motor. I hauled millions of barrels of the stuff.
I do agree that it is pretty silly to pump 3 lbs of Freon into a system that will leak it out in 2 days. Even at the old buck a pound rate, it is just a PITA. At today's rate of $40/lb, well, you gotta want some AC pretty bad. However, we must all realize that the reason it is $40 a pound is political and monitarily based, not "because it is so bad for the environment." That is just the party line that the Communist Part of America, err, I mean the Democrats have pushed on us.
Some "science" from the past: Life spontaneously creates itself as evidenced by maggots spontaneously appearing in a piece of meat left out, the world is flat, the world (accepted as round now) is the center of the universe, the world is the center of the solar system, oil comes from dinosaurs, you want me to continue?
Present "science" is all about the money. I have been in the scientific community "a lot" and I have seen it. A large company will give a university program 50 large and get a million dollars worth of research back out of it. They "guide" where they want the research to go. If the university doesn't find what the company was "looking" for, no more money comes next year. Same with the Goverment, although it is much worst than anyone outside can really imagine. A certain govt science agency (founder of the internet, regardless of what Mr. Coal Strip Mine Owner Inventor of the Internet Gore says) doles out little pieces of science and says "here, run with this and make us something." The university develops the technology around it. The money comes though a military "grant" (pick a branch) which means the results are automatically classified. That is how science works today.
Oh, and historically, all major scientific breakthroughs have come from someone's garage.
Sorry, bo, I don't help you no more. YOYO (you're on your own)
Dr.Hess
Steve, JP4 and JP5 (JP4 is more explosive, but gives the jets more oomph) work just fine in a Diesel motor, but not in a gasoline motor. I hauled millions of barrels of the stuff.
I do agree that it is pretty silly to pump 3 lbs of Freon into a system that will leak it out in 2 days. Even at the old buck a pound rate, it is just a PITA. At today's rate of $40/lb, well, you gotta want some AC pretty bad. However, we must all realize that the reason it is $40 a pound is political and monitarily based, not "because it is so bad for the environment." That is just the party line that the Communist Part of America, err, I mean the Democrats have pushed on us.
Some "science" from the past: Life spontaneously creates itself as evidenced by maggots spontaneously appearing in a piece of meat left out, the world is flat, the world (accepted as round now) is the center of the universe, the world is the center of the solar system, oil comes from dinosaurs, you want me to continue?
Present "science" is all about the money. I have been in the scientific community "a lot" and I have seen it. A large company will give a university program 50 large and get a million dollars worth of research back out of it. They "guide" where they want the research to go. If the university doesn't find what the company was "looking" for, no more money comes next year. Same with the Goverment, although it is much worst than anyone outside can really imagine. A certain govt science agency (founder of the internet, regardless of what Mr. Coal Strip Mine Owner Inventor of the Internet Gore says) doles out little pieces of science and says "here, run with this and make us something." The university develops the technology around it. The money comes though a military "grant" (pick a branch) which means the results are automatically classified. That is how science works today.
Oh, and historically, all major scientific breakthroughs have come from someone's garage.
Sorry, bo, I don't help you no more. YOYO (you're on your own)
Dr.Hess
I am certain I never said stupid. But if that is how you read it....
Not worldly educated is certain.
There are university students all across the US that dont know where Canada is, who think we live in Igloos and drive snowmobiles.. there are countless true stories of americans arrivingat the Border with skis on the roof on a 30 degree sumer day (85F)looking for snow.
It is not the kids fault that they are not taught about the rest of the world... it is what you have chosen to teach them. The average american lives in a "bubble" of america and dont see or are not aware of the other great places in the world.
Now if there was an actual bubble over the country then you might finally see the effects of the disrespect for the environment,, but the trade winds seem to keep if from your minds..........
Bruce.. ( not calling you stupid )
Not worldly educated is certain.
There are university students all across the US that dont know where Canada is, who think we live in Igloos and drive snowmobiles.. there are countless true stories of americans arrivingat the Border with skis on the roof on a 30 degree sumer day (85F)looking for snow.
It is not the kids fault that they are not taught about the rest of the world... it is what you have chosen to teach them. The average american lives in a "bubble" of america and dont see or are not aware of the other great places in the world.
Now if there was an actual bubble over the country then you might finally see the effects of the disrespect for the environment,, but the trade winds seem to keep if from your minds..........
Bruce.. ( not calling you stupid )
bojangles said:
I am certain I never said stupid. But if that is how you read it....
Not worldly educated is certain.
There are university students all across the US that dont know where Canada is, who think we live in Igloos and drive snowmobiles.. there are countless true stories of americans arrivingat the Border with skis on the roof on a 30 degree sumer day (85F)looking for snow.
It is not the kids fault that they are not taught about the rest of the world... it is what you have chosen to teach them. The average american lives in a "bubble" of america and dont see or are not aware of the other great places in the world.
Now if there was an actual bubble over the country then you might finally see the effects of the disrespect for the environment,, but the trade winds seem to keep if from your minds..........
Bruce.. ( not calling you stupid )
Bruce,
I have found that Canada and the US are inextricably linked economically, by a common heritage, sharing the longest undefended (at least until recently) border in the world. We are much more alike than we are different.
It was Canadian Diplomats which, at great personal risk, aided and extricated many of our Diplomats in Tehran in the late '70's by hiding them in the Canadian Embassy. Something many Americans are unaware of, but for which we should be forever grateful.
I love Canada and Canadians. My wife and I list Montreal as one of our favorite cities in the world, in fact, we were married there.
So far as Americans' ingnorance of the rest of the world, while I'm sure there are many who are, there are equal numbers of Americans who are not. The same can be said, in my experience, for many Canadians, Brits, French and Germans.
But, like all countries, the US is driven first by self-interest. Many resent us for the fact that we are often better able to actually do something about it - scientifically, economically, politically, militarily and such. Many resent us for this as did those in the past resent the UK, Rome, Greece etc. Add to that, America Bashing is in vogue at the moment and it's just too esy to fall into that trap.
Many also resent us for what they see as our messing up world politics, while remaining totally ignorant of the fact that most of the world's current conflicts stem from British (and all other Colonial Powers) domination of the world's peoples and resources in the 18th and 19th century. The world map, as it exists today, was the invention of these powers, who laid them out with total disregard for ethnic, religious or historical considerations, including the formation of Isreal, with it's disruptive presence in the Middle East. Only now, a couple hundred years later are these conflicts arising to correct these mistakes.
If the Greens were truly so concerned, they wouldn't focus on the US, but rather on the biggest curent and future polluters, namely the PRC. The sheer size of their population demands that they will put, as a nation, more pressure on Madre Monda than the rest of the world by a factor of 3:1. They truly represent the future threat to the planet, not the US. Happy Motoring! ...Jim'85TE
>> Edited by lotusguy on Friday 30th July 21:59
Well put Jim, but again, some of those points (China) were already brought up by myself with Bojangles in a past post....
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=96142&f=17&h=0&hw
Also in that post, look for a couple of these quotes from the esteemed Bojangles...
"guys that buy lotus should be more than average morons "
"let me say that is a freaking typical american attitude"
"You may be well travelled and educated and so on. But that sort of comment is ridiculous, along the lines of those that think Canadians all live in Igloos. Or also, "where is Bud-light?" in an English pub.... Just so frustrating. MEMEMEMMEMEMMEMEME never a second thought how you affect the people around you."
As I stated before, it is OBVIUOS you, Bruce, have issues with Americans. And YOU talk about Cananda/Canadians being stereotyped????? Talk about casting the first stone!
And just for the record, Although I don't partiularly feel that the Canadian govt. is lending much of a hand in fight against terrorism at present, I am aware of the many past gracious deeds the Canadians have done. Most notibly their not so publisized help during WW2, and I am very appreciative of that.
I am sorry if this is detracting from the purpose of this board, BUT I AM SICK AND TIRED OF BOJANGLES' CONDECENDING ATTITUDE TOWARDS THOSE THAT ARE HAVING A/C LEAKING ISSUES(AMERICANS)! AND YES I AM YELLING!
Thats my final response to the issue. Bruce, post what response you wish and lets all get back to Esprit talk.
John
94 S4
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=96142&f=17&h=0&hw
Also in that post, look for a couple of these quotes from the esteemed Bojangles...
"guys that buy lotus should be more than average morons "
"let me say that is a freaking typical american attitude"
"You may be well travelled and educated and so on. But that sort of comment is ridiculous, along the lines of those that think Canadians all live in Igloos. Or also, "where is Bud-light?" in an English pub.... Just so frustrating. MEMEMEMMEMEMMEMEME never a second thought how you affect the people around you."
As I stated before, it is OBVIUOS you, Bruce, have issues with Americans. And YOU talk about Cananda/Canadians being stereotyped????? Talk about casting the first stone!
And just for the record, Although I don't partiularly feel that the Canadian govt. is lending much of a hand in fight against terrorism at present, I am aware of the many past gracious deeds the Canadians have done. Most notibly their not so publisized help during WW2, and I am very appreciative of that.
I am sorry if this is detracting from the purpose of this board, BUT I AM SICK AND TIRED OF BOJANGLES' CONDECENDING ATTITUDE TOWARDS THOSE THAT ARE HAVING A/C LEAKING ISSUES(AMERICANS)! AND YES I AM YELLING!
Thats my final response to the issue. Bruce, post what response you wish and lets all get back to Esprit talk.
John
94 S4
bojangles said:
and Dr Hess dont call your self a dr if you are ignorring the education system that teaches us to use fact and not opinion to make decisions.
that was a huge bunch of malarky and just undid years of science by one ignorant set of remarks
the stuff is not good for the atmosphere. it is a chemical that has know reactions and very well doccumented effects. Huge companies do not do like you say - why would they still sell aspirin if the world works like you say?
sheesh
I have found that facts have very little to do with much beyond research. Once done, the reverse engenering starts and the marketing machine gets rolloing. There is no doubt that within the medical field, the cure is found and the remedy sold. Computers are the same. Slowest is sold first. I unfortunatly work in both industries.
The problem here is that you guys are both correct.
Opinion almost always drives decisions, not fact.
Most facts are obscured or selectively reported.
Science has always been a great starting point and "factual" if research is done correctly.
Most research is done with money from backers that will or will not allow the information to pass into the public... an informed opinion is death to marketing.
It all goes to statistics. And statistics are what ever we want them to be. AND... the public believes the statistics everytime.
J. Jeff MacAtee did a research study at Emory U. that, in short, gathered all the statics and "facts" he could find about everything from how many people will get killed buy a drunk drivers to how many kids will be shot to death with a hand gun. Conclusion: The entire population of the world will die within two days. Just a point... as I said. Tyou are both correct.
Drive topless!!!
Cameron
Is the 134 less harmful than the 12?. i've just had my drier changed for one that runs 134 as they (in the UK) will not use 12. I was just gonna fill it with the new stuff but figured doing the drier would mean it was sorted for good,and could be filled without the same banter each time.
We don't really have pistons for heads do we?,
you guys love each other really i'm sure.
Paul C
We don't really have pistons for heads do we?,
you guys love each other really i'm sure.
Paul C
Now that the crap is out of the way, maybe helping the fellow out would be a good idea?
I had this problem on my Esprit too. I tried the fluorescent leak detectors but nothing showed up. I was then able to borrow a friends leak detector, the wand type you wave around, and quickly found out my schrader valve on the low-side input was leaking. I replaced the valve and it has been quite good. Tighten your compressor fittings too, they could cause you problem.
So, it could be simple like this, or more difficult with the o-rings on the compressor fittings. However, replacing the valve meant the system lost all pressure, but since it was empty anyhow there wasn't much to be done.
After going through this mess I'd probably been better off taking it to an independent shop. They'll do a good job, do it right, and it won't cost you that much unless they're the type of shop that charges by car make, and in that case you shouldn't use them anyhow.
I had this problem on my Esprit too. I tried the fluorescent leak detectors but nothing showed up. I was then able to borrow a friends leak detector, the wand type you wave around, and quickly found out my schrader valve on the low-side input was leaking. I replaced the valve and it has been quite good. Tighten your compressor fittings too, they could cause you problem.
So, it could be simple like this, or more difficult with the o-rings on the compressor fittings. However, replacing the valve meant the system lost all pressure, but since it was empty anyhow there wasn't much to be done.
After going through this mess I'd probably been better off taking it to an independent shop. They'll do a good job, do it right, and it won't cost you that much unless they're the type of shop that charges by car make, and in that case you shouldn't use them anyhow.
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