esprit s4
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ALKISPAN

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24 posts

284 months

Saturday 25th October 2003
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Hello all

I am an Elise owner who wishes to upgrade to an esprit. Variety is pretty limited in my country (Greece). I found a yellow esprit that seems to be in good condition but:
The owner claims the car is an S4 2.0 95 model. After doing my homework I figured out that all S4 models were 2,2 liters and the only 2.0 esprit was the gt3 almost two years after. So what is happening here? Anyone - ideas?

Thank you all in advance

kylie

4,391 posts

281 months

Saturday 25th October 2003
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Hi there sorry am not sure off the top of my head but check out this website to double check. Look under the various models and you will see all the specs to go with it.
www.lotusespritworld.co.uk/

Regards
Kylie
89 Esp Turbo

ALKISPAN

Original Poster:

24 posts

284 months

Saturday 25th October 2003
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Thanx for the answer kylie, i went through the site you suggested but i still haven't read about an S4 2.0 !

adrianmugridge

12,447 posts

308 months

Saturday 25th October 2003
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You are correct that the S4 has a 2.2 litre engine and the GT3 has a 2.0 litre engine.

However, what I'm not sure about is this :

The GT3 was made because Lotus had about 200 2.0 engines that they did not know what to do with. The reason they had these engines is that they were made to be exported to the Italian market and they were no longer making any more cars for Italy. So, maybe the car is from Italy and hence has a 2.0 engine. Then again, I could be completly wrong and the S4 you are looking at does has a 2.2 engine and the owner is wrong.

Adrian
www.adrianmugridge.co.uk

Frio

5 posts

270 months

Monday 27th October 2003
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That's right. The car is very likely to be one of the S4 cars made for the Italian market. I own one as well and they are ok.
The 2.0L S4 is as good as the gt3 to drive but also has the comfort and the leather interiors of the S4, so it's a good compromise, I would certainly recommend it over a gt3.

Francesco

sport160hp

24 posts

294 months

Monday 27th October 2003
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The S4 2.0 was indeed made for the Italian market because the taxes are lower for a <2.0 litre car. Its very likely they importetef the car to Greece and the S4 is some years newer than the S4.
Check www.espritfactfile.com
[pic]www.lotusspecialist.nl/pictures/p3240151.jpg [/pic]
S4 2.0

adrianmugridge

12,447 posts

308 months

Monday 27th October 2003
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Francesco,

What's the power output of a 2.0 S4 ? Is it about the same as the GT3 ( i.e. 240 bhp ) ?

Adrian

Frio

5 posts

270 months

Tuesday 28th October 2003
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Yes, the power output is the same.
I know that after the few s4 produced for the italian market, Lotus also made an incredibly small amount of s4s with the output raised to 270bhp.
I guess the engine is exactly the same to the GT3, but I could be wrong, there could be some differences.

ALKISPAN

Original Poster:

24 posts

284 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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Thank you very much Frio, that was valuable information to me. The output of the particular car is 270. Is there something i should watch out for? Or all issues are pretty much covered in espritfactfiles.com?

Frio

5 posts

270 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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Well, in the Esprit Fact File you can find the VIN model codes table.
If you check the codes stamped on the chassis and the engine you will be able to identify exactly the model you are looking at.
270bhp is the standard output for the 2.2L S4, but it can also be the output for a slightly tuned/S4s chipped 2.0L S4 I would say.

adrianmugridge

12,447 posts

308 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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My GT3 has been chipped to 280, so with the same engine, 270 would be possible

Adrian

Frio

5 posts

270 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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how is it at 280? I remember somebody saying that due to the lower relative piston speed the 2.0L engine is very capable of quite high levels of tuning still being relatively reliable.
I would like to do something on mine too...

ALKISPAN

Original Poster:

24 posts

284 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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how reliable you find the 2.0 engine according to your experience?

Frio

5 posts

270 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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I don't use the Esprit very frequently, consider that it is a 1995 model and it has 42000KM (~26000 miles) on the clock.
Anyway I keep it very tidy, with more than regular servicing and very diligent usage.
Yes, this requires some time and money, and careful treatment, but the result is that i have NEVER had any serious problem with my S4 so far, especially with the engine.
Only the odd light that burnt and once one of the chargecooler support bolts broken (which costs very little to replace), and that's essentially it.
So I am one of the Esprit owners who really cannot complain about reliability, not yet at least... :-)

adrianmugridge

12,447 posts

308 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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Francesco,

My car has a 280bhp memcal from Moto-concept. It allows quite a bit more boost, up to 1 bar at Wide Open Throttle and as much as 1.2 bar when overboosting.

Have a look at : http://freudhoefer.de/lotus/esprit/products/chips/4cyl.htm

Adrian