Bolts. I hate bolts.
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trashbat

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6,305 posts

182 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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My bike was creaking away something special under torque, and spending money on new bits didn't seem to help, and nor did taking other bits off it at random. Then I thought I'd loosen up and regrease/tighten various fixings, one of which was the seat stem bolt, and another a mounting bolt for the rear disk caliper - holding the adapter into the frame.

Instead of the super brilliant success and all round congratulations that I was expecting, what I actually managed to achieve was rounding the head off the former and shearing the bolt head off the latter. I guess they'll both have to be drilled out.

In the interests of expedience and getting to ride the damn thing whilst it's still sunny, where would you take it to be fixed? I suspect that the LBS will probably pull a face and point me doorwards.

Edited by trashbat on Tuesday 22 May 20:02

clarkey328is

2,220 posts

203 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Don't you have a drill? That has to be the quickest and easiest way of doing it surely?

trashbat

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6,305 posts

182 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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I do not have a drill. I could buy a Dremel or similar, but up until this point in my life I've not required a drill, so would be an expensive option. Plus given my prior ineptitude, I'd probably need a new frame afterwards.

clarkey328is

2,220 posts

203 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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You would have a big job if you used a Dremel! You can get any old wired drill or borrow one off a mate and then just drill a smallish hole down the middle of the bolt and it should come out easily.

khushy

3,984 posts

248 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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make certain its got hammer-action smile

Robsti

12,241 posts

235 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Is this not a perfect excuse to get a new bike? wink

Rolls

1,502 posts

206 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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^^^ wise, wise words!!!

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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useful tips I have learnt in the past.
Copper Ease on everything.
Places like toolstation to good value packs of bolts, nuts etc all in a nice handy plastic case.

trashbat

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6,305 posts

182 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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Robsti said:
Is this not a perfect excuse to get a new bike? wink
I could buy a nice bit of Cotic. But I'd still have to get those bolts out.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

227 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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DO NOT DRILL OUT! Buy a bolt remover bit / kit first e.g. http://www.amazon.com/Alden-8440P-Grabit-Damaged-E...

If this fails then take it to a frame builder or engineering company. Drilling out should be your last resort and don't do it yourself as the differences in hardness between Ally and Steel makes it very very hard to do yourself without damaging the frame. You'll also need to then buy a tap as well and clean up the threads. Cheaper to get it done then buy the bits.

Then buy a decent set of allen keys, eg WERA., as good ones tend to round the bolt head less. Then look for bolts that are going rusty and replace with some stainless versions - you can buy multi-packs of ebay for very little. As pablo says copper slip or similar will prevent them from seizing, but be careful as it means they will undo easier as well - sometimes when you don't want them to.


trashbat

Original Poster:

6,305 posts

182 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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rhinochopig said:
DO NOT DRILL OUT! Buy a bolt remover bit / kit first e.g. http://www.amazon.com/Alden-8440P-Grabit-Damaged-E...

If this fails then take it to a frame builder or engineering company. Drilling out should be your last resort and don't do it yourself as the differences in hardness between Ally and Steel makes it very very hard to do yourself without damaging the frame. You'll also need to then buy a tap as well and clean up the threads. Cheaper to get it done then buy the bits.

Then buy a decent set of allen keys, eg WERA., as good ones tend to round the bolt head less. Then look for bolts that are going rusty and replace with some stainless versions - you can buy multi-packs of ebay for very little. As pablo says copper slip or similar will prevent them from seizing, but be careful as it means they will undo easier as well - sometimes when you don't want them to.
Ta, very useful. In fact I work for an engineering company but I've tried the poor chap's patience with this bike one time too many before wink

mad4amanda

2,410 posts

193 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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buy a Torque wrench, Halfords sell a mini one that goes right down to almost nothing.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

227 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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trashbat said:
rhinochopig said:
DO NOT DRILL OUT! Buy a bolt remover bit / kit first e.g. http://www.amazon.com/Alden-8440P-Grabit-Damaged-E...

If this fails then take it to a frame builder or engineering company. Drilling out should be your last resort and don't do it yourself as the differences in hardness between Ally and Steel makes it very very hard to do yourself without damaging the frame. You'll also need to then buy a tap as well and clean up the threads. Cheaper to get it done then buy the bits.

Then buy a decent set of allen keys, eg WERA., as good ones tend to round the bolt head less. Then look for bolts that are going rusty and replace with some stainless versions - you can buy multi-packs of ebay for very little. As pablo says copper slip or similar will prevent them from seizing, but be careful as it means they will undo easier as well - sometimes when you don't want them to.
Ta, very useful. In fact I work for an engineering company but I've tried the poor chap's patience with this bike one time too many before wink
Turn up with a bottle of his favourite tipple?

Buzz word

2,028 posts

238 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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If you have anything sticking out at all mole grips are my go to or using a hacksaw to cut a slot for a big old screwdriver. One of the ones with the socket or spanner attachments. If it's broken off flush is where it needs something more specialist.