Cav on the move?
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mcelliott

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Justayellowbadge

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271 months

Monday 23rd July 2012
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What an absolute nothing piece.

AyBee

11,321 posts

231 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Didn't seem to have any facts at all - don't think he'll be moving personally. I'd much rather have slightly less personal success (3 wins vs 5) and be in a successful team than the other way around.

mcelliott

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Friday 17th August 2012
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Just had a quick chat with someone who works for a professional team on the continent and Cav moving apparently to Omega Pharma-Quick Step - is almost a done deal. It would appear that Sky now want to concentrate on GC and are also keen to get hold of the services Jens Voigt.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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mcelliott said:
Just had a quick chat with someone who works for a professional team on the continent and Cav moving apparently to Omega Pharma-Quick Step - is almost a done deal. It would appear that Sky now want to concentrate on GC and are also keen to get hold of the services Jens Voigt.
cant see this myself, Voigt has a season left in him before he finally breaks, the guy is 41, he will start ot fall apart rapidly and there is nothing that Jens does that the likes of Stannard, Swift, Kennaugh and Thomas can not do.

Unless they sign some new riders, Omega havent got enough people to support Cav for a green jersey, despite what people say, I cant see Cav being a Classics man, Omega are a Belgian team, they live for rain, cobbles and more rain.... that all said, somewhere like Omega may give Cav time to spend on the track...

mcelliott

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Friday 17th August 2012
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pablo said:
mcelliott said:
Just had a quick chat with someone who works for a professional team on the continent and Cav moving apparently to Omega Pharma-Quick Step - is almost a done deal. It would appear that Sky now want to concentrate on GC and are also keen to get hold of the services Jens Voigt.
cant see this myself, Voigt has a season left in him before he finally breaks, the guy is 41, he will start ot fall apart rapidly and there is nothing that Jens does that the likes of Stannard, Swift, Kennaugh and Thomas can not do.

Unless they sign some new riders, Omega havent got enough people to support Cav for a green jersey, despite what people say, I cant see Cav being a Classics man, Omega are a Belgian team, they live for rain, cobbles and more rain.... that all said, somewhere like Omega may give Cav time to spend on the track...
I think they would only offer Jens a one year contract anyway (besides Radioshack are in meltdown so he's probably looking for a team!) - I agree with what you say about Pharma being a classics team, maybe a shift of emphasis? I can't reveal the source but I do trust his word 100%. We'll see. smile

Jimbo.

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218 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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Sky are still a reasonably "young" team. Yes, it has some utterly phenomenal young riders which bodes well for the future, but I can't think of anyone on their team who could be called a "veteran" (Wiggins, almost?), in the same way BMC had Hincapie, RadioSchleck has/had (?!) Voigt, Garmin has Miller etc. Voigt could bring a lot to Sky and the younger JV-in-the-makings could learn a lot from him. If RS implode, I can see JV in black and blue. And should be get another year, I'll be sure to be out there watching!

re. Cav. doesn't OP have a lot of ex-HTC backroom guys?

Edited by Jimbo. on Friday 17th August 21:37

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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was thinking about this today, if Cav really wants to plot a return to the track, why would he leave Brailsford, Perkins and the GB set up?... makes no sense, surely he would accept that points competitions are a non-starter and go for the one day classics that suit him, Milan-San Remo etc...

mcelliott

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Saturday 18th August 2012
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Personally I don't think Cav will ever return to the track, it will just mean such a huge change from his programme on the road (let's face it he's no spring chicken anymore). I was also thinking, if he were to stay at Sky, there's virtually no chance of him getting the green points jersey now that Wiggins and Froome are now regarded as the leaders of the team and going for GC. I can't see Sky investing too much time and effort into lead out trains. Stage wins are great for Cav but without the green jersey, there's definitely something missing.

Antony Moxey

10,697 posts

248 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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No spring chicken? He's only 27, hardly over the hill is it, for either road or track.

mcelliott

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Saturday 18th August 2012
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Antony Moxey said:
No spring chicken? He's only 27, hardly over the hill is it, for either road or track.
Sorry can you point out where I said he's over the hill?

ArnageWRC

2,334 posts

188 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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I can see this happening, it does make sense. The only doubt is Cav's wish to return to the track - was he serious, or was it being caught up in the emotion of it all?

Sky are now a GT team, everything is set up to challenge/ win in the 3 GT's. Going on his own for one TdeF is one thing, but every time he races in a GT.....I'm not sure he'd be too pleased with that.

Which is were OPQS makes sense; a lot of ex HTC staff; he is meant to be close to Brian Holm. Post Classics, do they really do anything? Having Cav can give them wins in GT's.....

Sky have signed Kiriyenka from Movistar, and as above there are rumours of Jens joining, Flecha leaving.... With RadioShack in turmoil, I'd love to see Spartacus at Sky....that would sort their Classics campaign out.

Some Gump

13,018 posts

215 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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Sorry, but i got to the wors "winningest" and closed the page. Noone with that language ability deserves an opinion, never mind a column.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 19th August 2012
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ArnageWRC said:
I can see this happening, it does make sense. The only doubt is Cav's wish to return to the track - was he serious, or was it being caught up in the emotion of it all?

Sky are now a GT team, everything is set up to challenge/ win in the 3 GT's. Going on his own for one TdeF is one thing, but every time he races in a GT.....I'm not sure he'd be too pleased with that.

Which is were OPQS makes sense; a lot of ex HTC staff; he is meant to be close to Brian Holm. Post Classics, do they really do anything? Having Cav can give them wins in GT's.....

Sky have signed Kiriyenka from Movistar, and as above there are rumours of Jens joining, Flecha leaving.... With RadioShack in turmoil, I'd love to see Spartacus at Sky....that would sort their Classics campaign out.
Sky should focus on developing young British talent not handing out big money contracts to fading stars like cancellara....

Antony Moxey

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248 months

Sunday 19th August 2012
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mcelliott said:
Antony Moxey said:
No spring chicken? He's only 27, hardly over the hill is it, for either road or track.
Sorry can you point out where I said he's over the hill?
You said 'no spring chicken' which implies he's getting on a bit. If you want to get pedantic over a phrase that means similar then carry on, but at least have the courage of your convictions not to feel you have to apologise for it.

mcelliott

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Sunday 19th August 2012
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Antony Moxey said:
You said 'no spring chicken' which implies he's getting on a bit. If you want to get pedantic over a phrase that means similar then carry on, but at least have the courage of your convictions not to feel you have to apologise for it.
Now, I can see you're getting your knickers in a right old twist aren't you. The thread title is 'Cav on the move' - everyone else has made valid and interesting comments on Mark Cavendish's possible move. Please feel free to do likewise. smile

Antony Moxey

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248 months

Sunday 19th August 2012
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mcelliott said:
Antony Moxey said:
You said 'no spring chicken' which implies he's getting on a bit. If you want to get pedantic over a phrase that means similar then carry on, but at least have the courage of your convictions not to feel you have to apologise for it.
Now, I can see you're getting your knickers in a right old twist aren't you. The thread title is 'Cav on the move' - everyone else has made valid and interesting comments on Mark Cavendish's possible move. Please feel free to do likewise. smile
If you say so. It's eating me up inside to the extent that I can't sleep at night due to Cavendish being no spring chicken any more. As to his move, usual paper talk IMO and no different to the tosh they fill the back pages with every day over which footballer is moving to which team.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 19th August 2012
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Antony Moxey said:
mcelliott said:
Antony Moxey said:
You said 'no spring chicken' which implies he's getting on a bit. If you want to get pedantic over a phrase that means similar then carry on, but at least have the courage of your convictions not to feel you have to apologise for it.
Now, I can see you're getting your knickers in a right old twist aren't you. The thread title is 'Cav on the move' - everyone else has made valid and interesting comments on Mark Cavendish's possible move. Please feel free to do likewise. smile
If you say so. It's eating me up inside to the extent that I can't sleep at night due to Cavendish being no spring chicken any more. As to his move, usual paper talk IMO and no different to the tosh they fill the back pages with every day over which footballer is moving to which team.
looks like itsa bit more than "paper talk", have to say I'm surprised... would love to see Cav go to GreenEdge though..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycli...

CoolC

4,500 posts

243 months

Monday 20th August 2012
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Adding fuel to the fire : http://roadcyclinguk.com/news/racing-news/wiggins-...
"Wiggins: Cavendish likely to leave Team Sky"

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

238 months

Monday 20th August 2012
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Yes, it's starting to look like Cav will be off. Understandably.

I suspect there will be a gentlemen's agreement between Sky and Cav that they will focus on GC (and maybe KOM?) and leave the green jersey for him (if he can) - in the spirit of greater success for British Cycling.

Especially if he's still got designs on the team pursuit at Rio. smile