Oh, you aren't joking. Blimey.
Oh, you aren't joking. Blimey.
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Justayellowbadge

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37,057 posts

271 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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I have a couple of little jobs that need doing and so was looking at picking up some Park tools to do them myself.

Having priced up what I needed, I thought I'd compare my local Evans to see what they'd charge to do the same jobs.

Now, I know everyone has to make a living and all that, but on their fixed price menu was the price of £10 to fit clip on mudguards. Crud catchers. Clip ons. The clue is in the name. They clip on.

Has anyone, ever, availed themselves of this service?

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

238 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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I was standing in an Evans branch in the City a few months ago (trying to buy a bike, but actually being ignored by the staff after I'd made it clear I wasn't interested in a singlespeed).

A woman came in - dressed properly for cycling, Lycra shorts and a proper top, plus helmet - with a puncture. They calmly booked her in to fix it the next day, leaving her presumably to get the train home.

I didn't know where to start: she should have known how to do it herself, they could have just done it for her on the spot, I was speechless.

mk1fan

10,910 posts

254 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Evans fix pricing at head office based upon their business requirements. It's a bit like asking Rogers to design your PD rights extension to your 1930's semi in Orpington.

MagicalTrevor

6,481 posts

258 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Did you offer to help? smile

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

238 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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MagicalTrevor said:
Did you offer to help? smile
They'd wheeled it out the back before I realised she wasn't going to go "Hold the fug on, what the fug are you doing you lazy shopmonkeys?"

Incidentally I got my bike from a different Evans (Spitalfields), who were perfectly competent.

croyde

26,350 posts

259 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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I was in a Cycle Surgery were I was contemplating a new set of tyres at an eye watering £80 so I said that if I bought them now, would they quickly slip them on to sweeten the deal.

No, they said, that'll be an extra £10 PER TYRE. yikes

I left on my old bald tyres.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

227 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Justayellowbadge said:
I have a couple of little jobs that need doing and so was looking at picking up some Park tools to do them myself.

Having priced up what I needed, I thought I'd compare my local Evans to see what they'd charge to do the same jobs.

Now, I know everyone has to make a living and all that, but on their fixed price menu was the price of £10 to fit clip on mudguards. Crud catchers. Clip ons. The clue is in the name. They clip on.

Has anyone, ever, availed themselves of this service?
TBH JAYB I'd avoid the majority of Park's kit for home spannering. It is usually way way more expensive than stuff that is 90% the same quality. It's really aimed at bike shops where it will be hammered day in day out rather than the once a month home beard will use it. I have most of the specialist tools now as I've built up about 4 or 5 bikes over the last couple of years so have moved from a mallet and a lump of wood to using the proper kit.

For example, I needed a BB tap set as I'd stripped the thread removing the BB. I bought the cyclus one for 90 quid http://www.cyclesportsuk.co.uk/product_info.php?pr... whereas the park version is a whisper under 500 quid, albeit with a facing cutter as well. http://www.tredz.co.uk/.Park-Tool-BTS1-Bottom-Brac...

Have a look at x-tools and other makes instead would be my advice. Nearly as good at a fraction of the price. It's worth checking the park stuff as well though as occasionally there isn't much difference.

okgo

42,127 posts

227 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Everytime I needed to do a job, change a cassette, BB, etc etc I just bought the tool, now I have the lot. I also mainly bought other named tools, not Park.

Nothing on a bike is that hard so certainly if you're not a total mechanical tard its worth doing everything yourself.

Electric Beaver

731 posts

221 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Having fitted some crudcatchers myself recently I would say £10 is a bargain for 3 hours work smile

sjg

7,675 posts

294 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Not just Evans, most cycle shops are kept going by keeping their workshops busy. Beyond paying the workshop staff, it costs money to run an equipped workshop in a busy retail space. Easy to see how a base cost of £25+ per hour for a single-man workshop adds up, especially in London.

Yes, some jobs are easy and really should be within the capabilities of all cyclists - but some people just can't be bothered and are happy to pay someone to do it for them.

Trustmeimadoctor

14,364 posts

184 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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i went to lbs the other day to see if they could help set up the front shock for me. their response was erm we dont do suspension really i wouldnt know where to start ! i wont be going there again

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

238 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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sjg said:
Not just Evans, most cycle shops are kept going by keeping their workshops busy. Beyond paying the workshop staff, it costs money to run an equipped workshop in a busy retail space. Easy to see how a base cost of £25+ per hour for a single-man workshop adds up, especially in London.

Yes, some jobs are easy and really should be within the capabilities of all cyclists - but some people just can't be bothered and are happy to pay someone to do it for them.
Precisely this ^

okgo

42,127 posts

227 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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Sometimes I'm happy to pay.

Sigma fitted a new wheel bearing to my Zipp wheel while I waited, £18 all in, can't argue with that.

Justayellowbadge

Original Poster:

37,057 posts

271 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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itsnotarace said:
sjg said:
Not just Evans, most cycle shops are kept going by keeping their workshops busy. Beyond paying the workshop staff, it costs money to run an equipped workshop in a busy retail space. Easy to see how a base cost of £25+ per hour for a single-man workshop adds up, especially in London.

Yes, some jobs are easy and really should be within the capabilities of all cyclists - but some people just can't be bothered and are happy to pay someone to do it for them.
Precisely this ^
I understand, I just find some of it hilarious. Just looked again.

Prices include:

Fitting a bottle cage: £10
Fitting grips; £10

And my new favourite, a surcharge of £13.55 over the usual £14 to mend a puncture, if you have hub gears.

BMWBen

4,906 posts

230 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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I stupidly got them to replace my cables and guides. 15 quid was what I saw from glancing at their pricelist, so booked it in because cutting gear cable guide is a total arse.

Came in to collect. Price was 15 quid PER CABLE. eek

£60 + VAT + parts banghead

Never again.

okgo

42,127 posts

227 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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itsnotarace said:
Yep, £18 for someone to do that for me including the bearing which is around a tenner, in my book is good value.

SkinnyBoy

4,635 posts

287 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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after using my LBS to install a headset recently, i bought myself a proper headset installer so i never have to use the useless robbing tts ever again. Gone are the days when the LBS was a great place to hang out and talk bikes, now if you are not buying their overpriced horrendous marked up stuff, they are hacking bits off your bike by paying shaved apes in calamari rings to "professionaly service your bike"

Said damage to headset... oh and headtube




daz3210

5,000 posts

269 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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To be fair I take mine in for the likes of gearshift adjustments, but do stuff I feel more capable of myself. Last time I had the gears adjusted of cost me a fortune, or should I say the bloke did it for nothing as I had just spent over £700 on another bike.

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

238 months

Tuesday 31st July 2012
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daz3210 said:
To be fair I take mine in for the likes of gearshift adjustments, but do stuff I feel more capable of myself. Last time I had the gears adjusted of cost me a fortune, or should I say the bloke did it for nothing as I had just spent over £700 on another bike.
That reminds me, I must tweak the cable tension on mine, it's a bit lazy on downshifts.