Hand Cycles
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Wheelrepairit

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3,046 posts

233 months

Sunday 26th August 2012
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Hi folks,

Found myself looking at hand cycles over the last few weeks, yet to see one in the flesh, but just wondered if anyone rides these, or have any information .

Something like this. http://www.draftwheelchairs.com/top-end-force/

I've a spinal injury so unable to ride a standard bike, and am looking to find another way to keep fit.

The one above I found when searching for spares for my wheelchair, spoke with the company and they seem very helpful, and I'm taking a trip to see them once my spares are in.

Any info anybody may have I'd welcome with open arms.

Thanks folks.

d8mok

1,951 posts

234 months

Sunday 26th August 2012
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Nothing constructive to add, but a local guy has one who i see often.

pastrana72

1,741 posts

237 months

Sunday 26th August 2012
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My friend is currently working on a range of designed his own hand cycles in the UK and currently uses one off road. His Company is Merici Sports CIC and he should have the finished first product out by the end of this year.

Sorry I can not post a link but he has a page with information on Facebook.

Wheelrepairit

Original Poster:

3,046 posts

233 months

Sunday 26th August 2012
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Thanks for the info on your friend, I'll watch his progress with interest.

Gumstabber

348 posts

218 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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I have a friend (Rachel Morris) who's racing in the paralympics in one. Can't imagine hers would be very cheap though - made by some company in America I think.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

227 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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Gumstabber said:
I have a friend (Rachel Morris) who's racing in the paralympics in one. Can't imagine hers would be very cheap though - made by some company in America I think.
Out of interest why does she race a hand-cycle and not a wheel chair? As a layman it looks like you should be able to operate the wheel chair if you can operate a hand cycle. This is clearly not the case though.

S6PNJ

5,837 posts

310 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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Fascinated by this topic, I have just watched a youtube clip and noticed that most of the bikes are set so that the 'pedals' are symmetrical ie both hands forwards at the same time. Only one bike was asymmetrical like a 'normal' bike. In the same way that front crawl is faster than butterfly (asymmetrical vs symmetrical) why do the majority of the bikes have symmetrical handles?

Of note, the bloke in the black top with red helmet (0:45) had MASSIVE arms! The bloke at 1:25 (asymmetrical) was clearly powering away from the rest of the bunch as well.

Rikk

129 posts

180 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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I would assume they are done that way to allow the back to be used, otherwise it would just be shoulders and arms. The one with asymmetric pedals the rider may be paralysed from the chest down so can't use his back.

Gumstabber

348 posts

218 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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Rachel won gold for us 4 years ago, not sure why she got into cycling, she used to sail too. IIRC she also coached/helped coach the british paralympic sailors for Beijing! She's quite strong too.

gary71

2,037 posts

208 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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rhinochopig said:
Out of interest why does she race a hand-cycle and not a wheel chair? As a layman it looks like you should be able to operate the wheel chair if you can operate a hand cycle. This is clearly not the case though.
Would it be that they would be able to use gears to maintain cadence, unlike a wheelchair? Hence go faster/longer?

FunkyNige

9,819 posts

304 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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gary71 said:
rhinochopig said:
Out of interest why does she race a hand-cycle and not a wheel chair? As a layman it looks like you should be able to operate the wheel chair if you can operate a hand cycle. This is clearly not the case though.
Would it be that they would be able to use gears to maintain cadence, unlike a wheelchair? Hence go faster/longer?
My (completely wild-ass-guess based on no experience or expertise in the field what so ever) explanation is that wheelchair users race using 'short bursts' with their arms (push-stop-push-stop, like a rower) whereas the hand-cycle users race using a continuous motion (like a kayak racer) so it depends on what your muscles are best as to what you race with.

Sorry for keeping this off topic!

Wheelrepairit

Original Poster:

3,046 posts

233 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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Some very interesting pointers being made here, on things i know nothing about.

Didnt even know of the ways to turn the crank, the posted video is great to watch and opens up some questions.

For me its got to be a lie down, legs in front of me option for a start, due to my injury there is no chance of me kneeling in the bike as such, my spasms would have me out of it in 5 secs flat.

Certainly looks an interesting way to keep fit.

Thanks for all your pointers so far folks.


gary71

2,037 posts

208 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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I'd be interested in the end result of this, keep us informed! smile

CoolC

4,500 posts

243 months

Tuesday 28th August 2012
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gary71 said:
I'd be interested in the end result of this, keep us informed! smile
^^This^^

Have a word with Liquid Knight, the pedal powered resident "one-off" bike builder smile

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

227 months

Wednesday 29th August 2012
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CoolC said:
gary71 said:
I'd be interested in the end result of this, keep us informed! smile
^^This^^

Have a word with Liquid Knight, the pedal powered resident "one-off" bike builder smile
Only if you subscribe to the I'm already injured what's the worse that can happen ethos hehe

wotnot

383 posts

203 months

Wednesday 29th August 2012
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Can't add anything constructive to this, but I took part in the New Forest Rattler sportive the other weekend and there were a surprising number of guys there using hand cycles.
Most were riding with able bodied mates, whether as a social thing or a 'just in case' companion I have no idea. However, I got chatting with one guy who was out on his own and who was aiming for a sub 3 hour time on the 47 mile route. He was riding at a very good pace and looked well on course to do it. Must have huge upper body strength.
His machine had the cranks turning together and from what I saw of it had exactly the same kind of gear set as those found on pedal powered bikes. Presumably these machines can be serviced by any competent bike mechanic. With that in mind I'd be surprised if at least one of your local bike shops couldn't help with useful information.

Wheelrepairit

Original Poster:

3,046 posts

233 months

Saturday 3rd November 2012
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Well, spent four hrs in the company of Chris from Draft wheelchairs in cambridgeshire on weds and have brought a handcycle.

Went for a top end force model in the end, after trying some out, its a very strange feeling using your hands to power yourself, and steer, but awesome fun as well.

Brand new they are £3400, they had one in showroom they were selling for someone, used 5 times, looked new, with a few extras like leg guards, water bottle,flag and trip computer, grand total of £1200.

It was a no brainer really.

Also ordered some "rollers" that you roll the front drive wheel onto and workout like that, plan is to build up my strength using roller over the winter months, before heading out onto rds in the spring.

Really excited, will post some pics up when collect it, hope to be end of next week.

S6PNJ

5,837 posts

310 months

Saturday 3rd November 2012
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Sounds fantastic! Even to the point where you can get rollers for it! I'd be interested to hear how you get on (just out of idle curiosity rather than anything else).

Good luck and well done on a fantastic price!

DrMekon

2,493 posts

245 months

Saturday 3rd November 2012
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You found these guys, right?

http://www.handcycling.org.uk/index.html

I've seen handcycles out and about around Cambridge - impressive kit. I know people do audax on them.

SPOKES

16 posts

243 months

Saturday 3rd November 2012
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Hi Pete - Please let us know how you get on.

I have a hand bike but only the type that attaches to my wheelchair. This is ok but is limited by only having 7 hub gears and a small front wheel. I have found that using the gears constantly is key to keeping a good pace as small slopes make a big difference to your ability to stay at a good pace.

I loose traction on the front wheel as there is not enough weight on the front wheel when attacking a hill. I suspect that being lower down and having your feet closer to the front wheel should counter this. It doesn't take long to get used a hand bike and it is a great way to travel.

I have also been toying with the idea of a more dedicated machine but space is at a premium with the Westfield in the garage.

I hope you are still enjoying the Striker which you aquired from me some time ago.

Cheers - Chris