The Holy Grail
Discussion
I'm getting a little annoyed with the muddy roads this year. As councils and the Police have had their budgets ConDem'd this year farmers are getting away with leaving inches of mud on the roads.
Cycling to work is becoming problematic and hazardous due to this. Hazardous is due to my tyre choice. I can either run slicks or add six to ten minutes to my journey time with nobblies problematic because whenever I arrive I look like I've been in the Betty Ford Clinic.


So the problem is...

...mudguards that are about as much use at guarding my as Gary Glitter is as a baby sitter.
So apart from getting a hybrid with a pair of wrap around granny guards what other options are available?
Cycling to work is becoming problematic and hazardous due to this. Hazardous is due to my tyre choice. I can either run slicks or add six to ten minutes to my journey time with nobblies problematic because whenever I arrive I look like I've been in the Betty Ford Clinic.
So the problem is...
...mudguards that are about as much use at guarding my as Gary Glitter is as a baby sitter.
So apart from getting a hybrid with a pair of wrap around granny guards what other options are available?
For the front, something like this for MTB suspension forks (assume that's what you have):
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/rapidracerproducts-neoguar...
Some people make them up from old inner tubes, but I'm too lazy for that.
Very effective I've found.
Rear, I have a guard like yours, but looks like it works better than yours (consolation I'm sure!).
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/rapidracerproducts-neoguar...
Some people make them up from old inner tubes, but I'm too lazy for that.
Very effective I've found.
Rear, I have a guard like yours, but looks like it works better than yours (consolation I'm sure!).
link to some 'guards
I have something very similar in the shed, and they worked very well on the last hardtail I had
I have something very similar in the shed, and they worked very well on the last hardtail I had
Umberway said:
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/rapidracerproducts-neoguar...
Rear, I have a guard like yours, but looks like it works better than yours (consolation I'm sure!).
I like that idea. Rear, I have a guard like yours, but looks like it works better than yours (consolation I'm sure!).

The trouble with mine I think is it's mounted too high as the clamp doesn't widen enough to put it on the down tube so it has to go as low as possible on the seat post.
I was thinking of making something like the BMW number plate holder...
http://www.motorworks.co.uk/bmw/prodimages/lg/MUE8...
http://www.wildatheartadventure.co.za/R1200GS%20Re...
...could work.

I would look at mounting the rear guard to the swing arm, that way you can get it close to stop excessive spray without interfering with the rear wheel travel.
Got to say though having had to use a bicycle to get to work/college many moons ago full length 'granny guards' are the way to go in crap weather, despite how crap it looks.
Got to say though having had to use a bicycle to get to work/college many moons ago full length 'granny guards' are the way to go in crap weather, despite how crap it looks.
There's nowhere to mount granny guards on the Camber so I'll need another bike at this rate. 
Here's my doodling so far...

...using the image of the cycle lane sign and incorporating it to a rear splash guard similar to the BMW GS1200 one. Could just as easily be a smiley face or any other design but I thought I'd use something familiar and related.

Here's my doodling so far...
...using the image of the cycle lane sign and incorporating it to a rear splash guard similar to the BMW GS1200 one. Could just as easily be a smiley face or any other design but I thought I'd use something familiar and related.
For commuting, I'd go with full-wrap guards.
But you're right that your current guards are mounted too high. I have a similar arrangement on my hardtail but with the guards mounted much closer to the (nobbly) tyre and I don't get half as much mess on me as you appear to be getting.
But my commuter has full-wrap guards on, front and back. It's just so much easier and cleaner all round (the bike stays cleaner too).
But you're right that your current guards are mounted too high. I have a similar arrangement on my hardtail but with the guards mounted much closer to the (nobbly) tyre and I don't get half as much mess on me as you appear to be getting.
But my commuter has full-wrap guards on, front and back. It's just so much easier and cleaner all round (the bike stays cleaner too).
Watchman said:
For commuting, I'd go with full-wrap guards.
But my commuter has full-wrap guards on, front and back. It's just so much easier and cleaner all round (the bike stays cleaner too).
This.. 100 times over..But my commuter has full-wrap guards on, front and back. It's just so much easier and cleaner all round (the bike stays cleaner too).
I've had to start using my mtb to commute rather than my cross bike with full guards... I've still got a crud catcher on the front, and a guard like yours on the back, but the amount of s
t that gets thrown up compared with my cross commuter is rediculous....After work this morning I fashioned this...

...I tried using staples at first but the paper type wouldn't penetrate the rubber and the upholstery ones would tear it. While I was looking for a hole punch so I could cable tie it I found Duct-Tape instead.
I'll be looking at ways of widening the rear mudguards bracket later so I can mount it on the frame.
...I tried using staples at first but the paper type wouldn't penetrate the rubber and the upholstery ones would tear it. While I was looking for a hole punch so I could cable tie it I found Duct-Tape instead.
I'll be looking at ways of widening the rear mudguards bracket later so I can mount it on the frame.
Liquid Knight said:
After work this morning I fashioned this...

...I tried using staples at first but the paper type wouldn't penetrate the rubber and the upholstery ones would tear it. While I was looking for a hole punch so I could cable tie it I found Duct-Tape instead.
I'll be looking at ways of widening the rear mudguards bracket later so I can mount it on the frame.
Do you have your front mudguard upside down? I always thought that type had the rubbery bit snuggled up under the headtube....I tried using staples at first but the paper type wouldn't penetrate the rubber and the upholstery ones would tear it. While I was looking for a hole punch so I could cable tie it I found Duct-Tape instead.
I'll be looking at ways of widening the rear mudguards bracket later so I can mount it on the frame.
Not sure it'll make any material difference to your protection though.
Watchman said:
Do you have your front mudguard upside down? I always thought that type had the rubbery bit snuggled up under the headtube.
Not sure it'll make any material difference to your protection though.
Tried it several ways and where and how it's located appears to be the most efficient. Not sure it'll make any material difference to your protection though.
Here's the rear modification.

I tried making the bracket bigger using another piece of plastic stuck in place but no glue was strong enough to support the weight of the mudguard so I threaded a cable tie through the nut and bolt...

...I'll give it a try tomorrow. It's foggy and it's bad enough trying to be seen when it's perfectly clear.
I tried making the bracket bigger using another piece of plastic stuck in place but no glue was strong enough to support the weight of the mudguard so I threaded a cable tie through the nut and bolt...
...I'll give it a try tomorrow. It's foggy and it's bad enough trying to be seen when it's perfectly clear.
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