Putting a light on my lid
Putting a light on my lid
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oyster

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13,733 posts

277 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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I am the proverbial Christmas tree when commuting in the dark, however I have yet to use a helmet mounted light and these will aid my safety in being able to warn drivers pulling out of side roads and on those occasions where a helmet light might be seen over the top of a car roof.

I have a couple of spare Smart lunar 25 front lights - can I get mounts for these?

Any other good but not too expensive options?

Nigel H

2,245 posts

239 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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I managed to get a couple of the Knog lights on front and back. The front one is on the visor and the read one on the shell; I've had to use odd bits of wire to make them fit, but it wasn't difficult and then work well. Not sure what will happen to my lid in an accident, but I'm of the opinion that I need the deterrent aspect more.

IIRC I paid £10 for a two

RSGulp

1,472 posts

268 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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Gumstabber

348 posts

218 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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Got a knog type light on the visor on my helmet. Bought from on-one for £1.49. Works fine.

TPS

1,860 posts

242 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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oyster said:
however I have yet to use a helmet mounted light and these will aid my safety in being able to warn drivers pulling out of side roads and on those occasions where a helmet light might be seen over the top of a car roof.
I really do not get this.

The other night I was blinded by a low flying UFO and nearly crashed into it.
Turns out it was some cyclists with helmet mounted lights.

Why do you think its clever to mount a light so high that it blinds oncoming drivers?

Zigster

1,997 posts

173 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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Another vote for a Knog. I have a Knog Frog attached to my helmet. The Frog is a rubbery thing so just attaches directly to the helmet by looping around one of the vents. CRC have them for £5 at the moment. Bright enough to be seen from some way off (particularly on flashing mode) without worrying about blinding drivers.

Marty63

2,347 posts

203 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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cyclist went past me the other night,

on front of bike was a white, red and amber lights

all equally bright

took a while to work out what was going on

Knob

XG332

3,927 posts

217 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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TPS said:
I really do not get this.

The other night I was blinded by a low flying UFO and nearly crashed into it.
Turns out it was some cyclists with helmet mounted lights.

Why do you think its clever to mount a light so high that it blinds oncoming drivers?
Best avoid the MTB light thread
1800 lh lights on their helmets.

Personally I prefer it as I can look around with the light as I cycle on unlite pot hole ridden roads.

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

238 months

Tuesday 8th January 2013
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XG332 said:
TPS said:
I really do not get this.

The other night I was blinded by a low flying UFO and nearly crashed into it.
Turns out it was some cyclists with helmet mounted lights.

Why do you think its clever to mount a light so high that it blinds oncoming drivers?
Best avoid the MTB light thread
1800 lh lights on their helmets.

Personally I prefer it as I can look around with the light as I cycle on unlite pot hole ridden roads.
The height doesn't mean that it will blind anyone. The angle might.

AyBee

11,321 posts

231 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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TPS said:
oyster said:
however I have yet to use a helmet mounted light and these will aid my safety in being able to warn drivers pulling out of side roads and on those occasions where a helmet light might be seen over the top of a car roof.
I really do not get this.

The other night I was blinded by a low flying UFO and nearly crashed into it.
Turns out it was some cyclists with helmet mounted lights.

Why do you think its clever to mount a light so high that it blinds oncoming drivers?
There's a big difference between an 1800lumen Cree mounted on your helmet and a knog! I wouldn't advocate the Cree being anywhere other than the bike (on the road) purely because it's very bright and your head probably moves around more than you think. A knog would be absolutely fine IMO and a sensible addition.

oyster

Original Poster:

13,733 posts

277 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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TPS said:
oyster said:
however I have yet to use a helmet mounted light and these will aid my safety in being able to warn drivers pulling out of side roads and on those occasions where a helmet light might be seen over the top of a car roof.
I really do not get this.

The other night I was blinded by a low flying UFO and nearly crashed into it.
Turns out it was some cyclists with helmet mounted lights.

Why do you think its clever to mount a light so high that it blinds oncoming drivers?
What don't you get?
I just want a moderate light up there to add additional protection, and I will also have lights on the handlebars of the bike so it won't look like a 'UFO'.

donfisher

793 posts

195 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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I sometimes use one of these strapped to one of the vents, it's similar to the knog:

Niterider Lightning bug 2.0



I saw some bloke last night with three ligts that were each easily as powerfull as my TomTop 1200, one on the bars, two on the lid, all set to strobe. It was too much in an urban environment and a bit of a cvnuts trick for the oncoming trafic.

TPS

1,860 posts

242 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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I just don't get why anyone puts them on a helmet.
I am a cyclist myself and I just would not do it.
The lights on my handlebar do just fine and in my eyes if they cannot see that what difference will one on my helmet make.

As I say its ironic that the lights a group thought gave them superior protection nearly caused them to get hurt.

Your head moves up and down and left to right as you ride so why puts light on it.

Would you like it if someone walked down the road with a torch at head height shining it through your windsceen?

Ok if the light is not bright it may be ok though.

antspants

2,402 posts

204 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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I don't understand what people don't get about the OP's question rolleyes

He's said that this isn't to light his route, it is simply to add another means of drivers seeing him particularly over the top of other vehicles. He isn't intending to blind anybody just to be seen.

The lights being described in the MTB winter lights thread are predominantly being used either for night riding trails or on unlit country roads. I do agree that they are completely unsuitable for busy roads, however all have the ability to be turned down wink

AyBee

11,321 posts

231 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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TPS said:
I just don't get why anyone puts them on a helmet.
I am a cyclist myself and I just would not do it.
The lights on my handlebar do just fine and in my eyes if they cannot see that what difference will one on my helmet make.

As I say its ironic that the lights a group thought gave them superior protection nearly caused them to get hurt.

Your head moves up and down and left to right as you ride so why puts light on it.

Would you like it if someone walked down the road with a torch at head height shining it through your windsceen?

Ok if the light is not bright it may be ok though.
Because cyclists filter through traffic where handlebar mounted lights are hidden by the vehicles and a helmet mounted one may not be. You also have the benefit of shining a light in the direction of drivers pulling out when you look at them who may not see your front lights due to the angle.

To answer the OP, the answer is probably to canibalise a handlebar mount with cableties.

Pothole

34,367 posts

311 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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antspants said:
however all have the ability to be turned down wink
Care to hazard a guess how often that actually happens?

otolith

68,814 posts

233 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Pothole said:
are to hazard a guess how often that actually happens?
Whenever they want the battery to last any length of time?

TPS

1,860 posts

242 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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otolith said:
Whenever they want the battery to last any length of time?
How about never.

Agoogy

7,274 posts

277 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Well I do it, so you're immediately wrong hehe

TPS

1,860 posts

242 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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antspants said:
The lights being described in the MTB winter lights thread are predominantly being used either for night riding trails or on unlit country roads. I do agree that they are completely unsuitable for busy roads, however all have the ability to be turned down wink
Exactly where I was blinded,a unlit country lane.

A country lane I actually ride on at night with no issues of not seeing potholes etc.

After all we are talking about a mountain bike doing 15/20mph.