What bike, £2K new to roadies
What bike, £2K new to roadies
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tuffer

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9,009 posts

296 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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I bought a new mountain bike (Canyon Nerve XC9) about 16 months ago and been more than happy with it but now also fancy a roady so that I can work on my fitness a but more. I am just about to undergo surgery that may involve replacing my L4/L5 Disc so not sure how long recuperation will be but intend on getting on the bike ASAP.
So, given an approx £2K budget what should I be looking at? I want to include (road) helmet, pedals and shoes in that but I have everything else for now. I am 6' (maybe a bit less next week) and 13 stone ish, pretty fit in that I can run 8Km without too many issues ans regularly MTB 20 or 30Km at a weekend. Also happy to buy an older model at a reduced price rather than spend a fortune just for this years sticker set.
Things I like, for no particular reason other than they are in budget'ish and look nice:
Specialized Roubaix Comp
Canyon Ulimate CF
Colnago Ace Ultegra
Pinarello FP Due 105
Felt AR 5

Thoughts?

Barbarossa

144 posts

247 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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I would look at bikes that describe themselves as "Sportive" or "GF". They will be a bit more upright and easier on you back. Specialized Roubaix, Scott CR1 etc.

moles

1,858 posts

273 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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Get another canyon

Rouleur

7,416 posts

218 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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Canyon http://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=30...

http://www.canyon.com/_en/roadbikes/bike.html?b=30...


Rose with free delivery ATM http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/rose-carbon-pro...

http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/rose-xeon-rs-50...


Any of those bikes will offer better VFM than anything else any you'll never feel the need to upgrade anything on them.

The problem with buying online without being able to try a bike is that you don't have any experience of what sort of geo you need on a road bike, but Canyon's fit calculator may help.

ditchvisitor

1,238 posts

250 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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Giant Defy Advanced 2 2012 RRP is 2.5k I picked one up for 1800, full Ultegrs, it's a great bike.
http://www.rutlandcycling.com/42767/Giant-Defy-Adv...

964Cup

1,626 posts

266 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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Get a Mekk Poggio P2.5 Ultegra and spend the balance on upgrading the wheelset.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/mekk-2g-poggio-p25-ultegra...

(Or you can do what I did, and slowly upgrade almost everything).

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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The obvious/boring choice. Canyon ultimate CF, you know they are the best value for money out there and very capable so it may be the boring option but it makes the most sense....

The leftifeld choice: Primera (as an example) have some very tasty 2011/2012 Argon 18 Framesets on sale like this for £900....

You can pick up a Sram Rival groupset from Shiny bikes for around £500 and that leaves you £600 for the rest. 3T bar, stem and bars will only be £200 although you can save a bit here by using Ritchey WCS or Deda kit, Campag Zonda/Shimano RS80 C24 wheels are around £300 from the usual suspects leaving at least £100 for saddle and sundries.

Thats an awesome bike for the money and will tip the scales around 18lbs. Be brave!...

tuffer

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Monday 4th March 2013
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pablo said:
The obvious/boring choice. Canyon ultimate CF, you know they are the best value for money out there and very capable so it may be the boring option but it makes the most sense....

The leftifeld choice: Primera (as an example) have some very tasty 2011/2012 Argon 18 Framesets on sale like this for £900....

You can pick up a Sram Rival groupset from Shiny bikes for around £500 and that leaves you £600 for the rest. 3T bar, stem and bars will only be £200 although you can save a bit here by using Ritchey WCS or Deda kit, Campag Zonda/Shimano RS80 C24 wheels are around £300 from the usual suspects leaving at least £100 for saddle and sundries.

Thats an awesome bike for the money and will tip the scales around 18lbs. Be brave!...
And I get to build it........which will be an absolute disaster wink

Rob_T

1,916 posts

280 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/article/bike-of...

Having owned the Giant Defy Advanced 3 a few years ago which is basically the same as the new advanced 2 (ie it's all 105 group set) I can confirm that this would be an excellent bike if you are new to being a roadie. It is what I started on and it is more than perfectly capable.

Mods may now close the thread, there is nothing left to discuss.

smile

tuffer

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Monday 4th March 2013
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Rob_T said:
http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/article/bike-of...

Having owned the Giant Defy Advanced 3 a few years ago which is basically the same as the new advanced 2 (ie it's all 105 group set) I can confirm that this would be an excellent bike if you are new to being a roadie. It is what I started on and it is more than perfectly capable.

Mods may now close the thread, there is nothing left to discuss.

smile
I was just about to say that I don't really "like" Giant bikes......But that is a bit nice.

tuffer

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mudshark

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167 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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tuffer said:
I was just about to say that I don't really "like" Giant bikes......But that is a bit nice.
Why don't you like them? Because of how they look? Fair enough but the Defy bikes are consistently rated well - I have one. But certainly buy the latest Cycling Plus as they have rated a lot of bikes in your price range - many of them would be fine for you but yeah the Defy wins.

tuffer

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mudshark said:
tuffer said:
I was just about to say that I don't really "like" Giant bikes......But that is a bit nice.
Why don't you like them? Because of how they look? Fair enough but the Defy bikes are consistently rated well - I have one. But certainly buy the latest Cycling Plus as they have rated a lot of bikes in your price range - many of them would be fine for you but yeah the Defy wins.
Not sure really, its just a brand thing, I'm a bit like that. I don't buy stuff because of sponsorship or who rides/drives/throws/drinks stuff, its just that I like the look of certain brands and tend to stick with them. I suppose subconsciously it could be down to marketing but to me its just about how stuff looks on the eye as well as its technical prowess.

okgo

42,132 posts

227 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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Well you know if you want the best bike for the money then you have to buy the canyon, everything else will be a better looking 2nd place with worse kit.

tuffer

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okgo said:
Well you know if you want the best bike for the money then you have to buy the canyon, everything else will be a better looking 2nd place with worse kit.
That's what I thought but the Canyon was tested as part of the Bike Radar test mentioned above and was still beaten by the Giant. I am inclined to agree though, I would rather buy from Canyon direct and get a good deal than to buy a more common brand only to see the same bike with 37% off in 6 months time.

okgo

42,132 posts

227 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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I wouldn't pay too much attention to Bikeradar reviews, I've found them totally contradictory in the past. The only person I will read and trust the opinion of is Jeff Jones.

tuffer

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okgo said:
I wouldn't pay too much attention to Bikeradar reviews, I've found them totally contradictory in the past. The only person I will read and trust the opinion of is Jeff Jones.
Yep, got half way through the review and it switched to a review of the Cannondale, kind of lost credibility after that. Also noted by a few people that the bike tested was not a standard spec 9.0 but the 9.0 ES which is £2,049.

okgo

42,132 posts

227 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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Shame they're like that, as they have done some great articles at times, but most of them are pretty poor.

Anyway, I've only ever heard good things of all the Canyon bikes to be honest. Suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but my mates one with deep sections looks great!

tuffer

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Out of budget but I love the look of this:

HurryUpAndWait

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232 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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tuffer said:
Out of budget but I love the look of this:
My budget started at £2k. It didn't last long - as evidenced by having an Ultegra Di2 version of the above on order smile