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anonymous-user

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83 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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Having taken to Sufferfest recently I am finding that my Elite trainer has a couple of issues.

Firstly the resistance definitely changes as the workout progresses, I can feel it surging despite steady cadence and pedal stroke. It's fine when you're pratting about at tempo pace but when you are trying to hold peak and it suddenly winds up its annoying.

Secondly it spins up at anything over 750watts in a sprint. Sitting down its better but I am trying to practice out of the saddle stuff.

Is it expecting too much for any turbo to perform any better, I don't use rollers thinking of trying some but quite like being able to grind myself into the floor without worrying about balance!

okgo

42,132 posts

227 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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Kurt with the big flywheel if you are not worried about noise. It's very good.

Be careful sprinting out of the saddle when the bike is fixed to the turbo, lots of unnatural stress on the frame.

anonymous-user

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83 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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Will check it out, thanks. Never thought about the frame, might be worth picking up a cheap alloy one and making something static.

Keep thinking about rollers.

okgo

42,132 posts

227 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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The kurt rock n roll is undoubtedly the daddy. Also due to the pivot you an sprint without fear of snapping anything!


HurryUpAndWait

1,003 posts

232 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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yonex said:
Will check it out, thanks. Never thought about the frame, might be worth picking up a cheap alloy one and making something static.

Keep thinking about rollers.
Unless you get rollers that you can add resistance to, I wouldn't bother personally - you'll be pedalling in top gear at 100 cadence and be mildly out of breath. Fun though.

anonymous-user

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83 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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Just been looking at the R&R, not cheap holy cow! However I quite enjoy turbo sessions and if I keep up the useage in the long run a better trainer makes more sense.

NitroNick

758 posts

239 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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yonex said:
Just been looking at the R&R, not cheap holy cow! However I quite enjoy turbo sessions and if I keep up the useage in the long run a better trainer makes more sense.
I've got a Rock and Roll and its very disappointing. Its just a gimmick. I went back to my Tacx Satori after about two weeks of the Kurt, its just taking up space now and it is absolutely massive and very heavy. Test one before you commit to it.
Imho...Rollers are great for race warms ups etc but for long training sessions they aren't ideal, they take too much concentration. 2 hours is my absolute maximum on a set of rollers, I do 4 hours sessions regularly on the turbo.

anonymous-user

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83 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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Nick, if you want to get rid of it then let me know.

Jimbo.

4,220 posts

218 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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NitroNick said:
I've got a Rock and Roll and its very disappointing. Its just a gimmick. I went back to my Tacx Satori after about two weeks of the Kurt, its just taking up space now and it is absolutely massive and very heavy. Test one before you commit to it.
Imho...Rollers are great for race warms ups etc but for long training sessions they aren't ideal, they take too much concentration. 2 hours is my absolute maximum on a set of rollers, I do 4 hours sessions regularly on the turbo.
4 HOURS on a turbo? My barse just hurts thinking about it!

ChrisMCoupe

927 posts

241 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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okgo said:
Kurt with the big flywheel if you are not worried about noise. It's very good.

Be careful sprinting out of the saddle when the bike is fixed to the turbo, lots of unnatural stress on the frame.
Okgo, how much more noise does the big flywheel make on the Kurt? I have the KK Road Machine and find it extremely quiet.

Or maybe it's just louder when you're holding 400 watts wink

anonymous-user

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83 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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ChrisMCoupe said:
Okgo, how much more noise does the big flywheel make on the Kurt? I have the KK Road Machine and find it extremely quiet.

Or maybe it's just louder when you're holding 400 watts wink
I wouldn't think a bigger flywheel would make more noise?

okgo

42,132 posts

227 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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It just created much more vibration, which I suppose is obvious, it's 18lbs of metal spinning at silly rpm. Won't be an issue on ground floor but for me it created too much reverberation.

anonymous-user

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83 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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okgo said:
It just created much more vibration, which I suppose is obvious, it's 18lbs of metal spinning at silly rpm. Won't be an issue on ground floor but for me it created too much reverberation.
Vibes...must have been out of balance, odd.

okgo

42,132 posts

227 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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Yeh there was a cam like effect going on. But as said when I was doing it outside it was fine and it did crest a very road like ride. If you stopped pedalling it would take around 1 minute for it to come to a stop. Not like the cheap turbos.

anonymous-user

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83 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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okgo said:
Yeh there was a cam like effect going on. But as said when I was doing it outside it was fine and it did crest a very road like ride. If you stopped pedalling it would take around 1 minute for it to come to a stop. Not like the cheap turbos.
Sounds like what I need. Lower cadence stuff trying to simulate hills is like treading mud, it almost stalls if you don't keep it going...zero inertia.