Cannondale Retro Restoration
Cannondale Retro Restoration
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HereBeMonsters

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14,180 posts

211 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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OK, so I've done that daft thing where you're browsing eBay and see one of your childhood heroes locally for not much money, and bought it:









It's a Cannondale F800 with a Headshok. Which works, surprisingly! The brakes do not however, so these are arriving to boost the stopping power:



And the rear mech has knackered jockey wheels, so this will take its place:



Also on the list is a shorter stem (judging by what I've found, it might be cheaper and easier to find someone to chop a couple of inches out of the current one and weld it back up...), some retro Club Roost braced riser bars, some decent pedals and a decent saddle.

The shifters look like they're on they way out as well, and I'm not really a fan of GripShift, so thinking of getting some Shimano 9 speed shifters to go with the 9 speed rear mech. Will the current hub take a 9 speed sprocket though, as it's currently a 7 speed?

Jayfish

6,795 posts

232 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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What are those tyres? look like proper pavement munchers with a little outboard grip for when you sink into a little mud?

airbrakes

10,713 posts

189 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Jayfish said:
What are those tyres? look like proper pavement munchers with a little outboard grip for when you sink into a little mud?
I call them lethal-lethals after my experience with similar Kenda "semi slicks". Lethal in the wet or even mild damp on tarmac as they skid or aquaplane very easily. Lethal on grass or mud as by the time you're at a sufficient angle for the side knobs to try and dig in (which they never do), you're well on the way to an accident anyway.


HereBeMonsters

Original Poster:

14,180 posts

211 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Jayfish said:
What are those tyres? look like proper pavement munchers with a little outboard grip for when you sink into a little mud?
Oh yeah, some Panny Smoke and Darts will be replacing those!

Celtic Dragon

3,353 posts

264 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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HereBeMonsters said:
The shifters look like they're on they way out as well, and I'm not really a fan of GripShift, so thinking of getting some Shimano 9 speed shifters to go with the 9 speed rear mech. Will the current hub take a 9 speed sprocket though, as it's currently a 7 speed?
Don't think you can go from 7 to 9, IIRC the cassettes are different lengths and won't fit in the frame. I'm looking to go from 8 to 9 which I think will work as the sprockets are the same length, but thinner to get the 9 in. The same reasoning prevents me going from 8 to 10 speed rear.

LRdriver II

1,936 posts

278 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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the cassette should fit.. the chain gets narrower to squeeze 9 on. you need to get a set of Gripshift Xrays.. the are shimano compatible as SRAM ( gripshifts new name) use a different pull ratio.

HereBeMonsters

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14,180 posts

211 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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LRdriver II said:
the cassette should fit.. the chain gets narrower to squeeze 9 on. you need to get a set of Gripshift Xrays.. the are shimano compatible as SRAM ( gripshifts new name) use a different pull ratio.
Yeah, looking for a 9 speed XTR cassette and chain, and some 9 speed XTR shifters to match. Will probably keep the front triple as it looks OK for now.

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

238 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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I think I saw that one on Ebay too. I've been keeping my eye out for a dark blue one (think it's an M800) - saw one for £100 at a junkshop in Lymington a while back and kicking myself that I didn't buy it. Looking forward to seeing it finished smile

HereBeMonsters

Original Poster:

14,180 posts

211 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Gizmoish said:
I think I saw that one on Ebay too. I've been keeping my eye out for a dark blue one (think it's an M800) - saw one for £100 at a junkshop in Lymington a while back and kicking myself that I didn't buy it. Looking forward to seeing it finished smile
I've got my eye on the Volvo Cannondale colours (mid blue and yellow) Martyn Ashton trials edition one, so went for red for the "normal" mountain bike.

gary71

2,037 posts

208 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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If you need some new graphics I've just had a set made up for my Daughter's F600 of similar vintage. Gil_m on Retrobike is the man! smile


deadtom

2,769 posts

194 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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cassette should fit fine, the 7 speed used a spacer to make up for the lack of width of the cassette, so an 8 or 9 should fit fine, just sans spacer.

and it is true that you have to be wary of compatibility between SRAM and shimano as SRAM use a 1:1 actuation ratio and shimano used 2:1 (I think). You can (or at least could) however get SRAM rocket shifters which work with shimano rear mechs.

HereBeMonsters

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14,180 posts

211 months

Thursday 20th June 2013
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Ok, retro XTR rear mech and shifters arrived. Magura Racelines and yellow DMRs too.

Need a new crankset - is this a square bottom bracket?

Dixie

740 posts

264 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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What year is it?

I always lusted after a Delta V. There seems to be a good few of them about on ebay these days but i dare say they're pretty usless against anything modern.

was8v

2,013 posts

224 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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deadtom said:
cassette should fit fine, the 7 speed used a spacer to make up for the lack of width of the cassette, so an 8 or 9 should fit fine, just sans spacer.
Not totally correct.

7 speed freehubs are the width of a 7 speed cassette.
8 speed freehubs are wider.
9/10 speed are the same width as 8.
To fit a 7 speed cassette to an 8 speed hub, you use a spacer.

To fit a an 8 speed cassette to a 7 speed hub is impossible.

You need to determine if the bike has had a replacement (8spd) rear hub and if the existing cassette is fitted with a spacer. If so the 8/9/10 cassette will fit. If its never had a new hub then likely you are stuck with 7spd. 7spd cog spacing is slightly different to 8spd, so if you use a 7spd cassette and 8spd shifter (one click unused) then the indexing will never quite be right.

Some older Sram stuff (your gripshift included) is the same pull ratio as Shimano.


HereBeMonsters

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14,180 posts

211 months

Saturday 22nd June 2013
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Hmmm...so I might need a new rear wheel.

And as the Maguras need new pads, recommendations for a good combo?

HereBeMonsters

Original Poster:

14,180 posts

211 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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It's home!










Yeah, it's not perfect, but it's going to ridden. If I wanted a display piece I would have had every part meticulously repainted.

Tyres ordered (Panaracer Fire XCs, yellow), grips ordered (Superstar Supergripa in yellow, with red end caps), then it's out to the trails. CANNOT WAIT!

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

238 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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That is totally rad.

lufbramatt

5,676 posts

163 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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Amazing how sticking a shorter stem on it makes it look pretty much current! How is the geometry now?

HereBeMonsters

Original Poster:

14,180 posts

211 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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lufbramatt said:
Amazing how sticking a shorter stem on it makes it look pretty much current! How is the geometry now?
I've only had a short ride around the car park at the workshop, but feels spot on. Absolutely spot on for me. Couldn't be happier.

Considering selling my modern Cube now...

bbc

264 posts

221 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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Slightly o/t, but if (and when) you need a shock service, I can highly recommend Tony Nunn: http://www.thumbprinttuning.co.uk/flash_tony_nunn....
He did a lefty for me late last year, and it's now perfect.