Which would you go for?

[DJPetrolHead]

Both with Di2 etc etc..... its more about choice and I am stuck. There is around a £1.25k difference in price (Trek being the most expensive) but the Trek is more suited to my size (6ft6, 220lbs etc) and is the "recommended" by the local Trek dealer where I had a recent measurements sessions. Currently ride a Wilier Izoard XP (XL - 58cm) and know its not right but has served its purpose getting me out there and doing 4k miles in 2 yrs on it. Therefore would the XXL Wilier GTR being a compromise on cost, size etc rather than the larger recommended frame fitting (which is 3cm larger).

Help me as I know there are guys out there who know a shed load more than me about bikes, setups, brands, sizing etc..... need your help if you would be so kind!! All opinions welcome. Riding is anything from 15 mile run outs to 100mile+ sportives.

Thank you all in advance for any help / guidance given

thanks dan

[agentnomad]

If you are spending that sort of money (I have just spent 10K on a Dogma) you either know what you want or as you are, unsure so this is my advice, go and pay for a proper bike fit for the type of riding that you do the most, others will be a small compromise then return with the data from the bike fit and study the frame data and make your choice and enjoy.

[louiebaby]

I bought a 64cm Trek a couple of years ago, after a few years on something a bit smaller.

I had a mini fit at the same time, for free. I never realised how wrong my positioning was. All the aches and pains that showed up after 25-30 miles vanished instantly, the slightly wider bars made climbing more comfortable, and as a result I use the bike a whole lot more.

I could never have done Lejog on the old one, but managed it without much issues on the newer bike.

Get one that fits you best, then you'll use your investment. Mine might have been at the 105 end of the spectrum, but I think the point still stands.

Also, be ready for people thinking its a bike with 650 wheels until they get a bit closer and realise its just a massive frame.

[anonymous-user]

Without knowing what constitutes the difference in price its hard to say which is the better bike, logic would say the Trek obviously, but if it doesnt fit you, (and regardless of seat tube length, there are things like cockpit distance and head tube height which will affect handling and comfort) its not worth the extra.

I dont understand why you are looking at just two bikes that are £1k apart in terms of price? Comapre the high end Wilier or the lower spec Trek?

... then buy a Cervelo!

[otolith]

The difference in the quality of dealers was the clincher for us. I don't think there were any bad bikes on our shortlist.

[DJPetrolHead]

otolith said:

The difference in the quality of dealers was the clincher for us. I don't think there were any bad bikes on our shortlist.

I agree sir - think my issue here is that I love wilier design. I low the bike I have had. Lot of people very critical of trek bikes as well which I am struggling to understand (maybe linked to being American and big big brand)

Still lost but pole states Trek so far @ 60%

[Jimbo.]

DJPetrolHead said:

I agree sir - think my issue here is that I love wilier design. I low the bike I have had. Lot of people very critical of trek bikes as well which I am struggling to understand (maybe linked to being American and big big brand)

Still lost but pole states Trek so far @ 60%

Many are against Trek due to their size, viewing them as the "Microsoft" of cycling. The same thing blights Specialized. Then there's the whole Trek/Gary Fisher/Klein thing, and also Trek/Armstrong/LeMond.

Such things don't bother me: when they're not piss-balling about with chainstay mounted brake callipers and other such nonsense, they make some nice bikes

[anonymous-user]

Why not just buy the more expensive Wilier or pick up the GTR frameset and build up something to the value of the Trek with your own choice of parts? I like the look of the GTR though the graphics are a bit garish.

[ferrisbueller]

Have you considered the Trek's slightly softer stablemate, the Domane?

[Disco You]

Wilier.

When you're spending a wedge, why get something as booooring as a Trek.

p.s. I also think that your best option would be to spend money on a Retul bike fit and then buy a bike with the optimal geometry for you.

[louiebaby]

Disco You said:

p.s. I also think that your best option would be to spend money on a Retul bike fit and then buy a bike with the optimal geometry for you.

If we're playing that game, I'd be off to Enigma or similar for a custom sized piece of Titanium loveliness.

Genuinely it's a difficult decision really, head says Trek, heart says Wiilier. One you might not ride as much because you really wanted the Willier, the other because it doesn't fit as well. (Maybe.)

Hell of a nice "1st world problem" to have though. Do let us know what you went with...

[Kermit power]

DJPetrolHead said:

Still lost but pole states Trek so far @ 60%

I didn't vote as I don't know either bike, but if forced, I would've voted for the Trek simply because it sounds as though you think the Wilier might still not be quite large enough for you.

Whatever you do, don't spend a penny on a bike which doesn't fit you properly!!! You'll ride more (because you're enjoying it more) on a £500 bike that fits you properly than you ever will on a £5k bike that's too small.

If you're spending a significant amount of cash, do it with someone who can measure you up and fit you to the bike properly. Let the head take you to a shortlist of bikes that actually fit you, then let your heart pick from those.

[Rocksteadyeddie]

ferrisbueller said:

Have you considered the Trek's slightly softer stablemate, the Domane?

^^ this ^^

Widely acclaimed by seemingly anyone who's ridden one.