Shoe sizing - differences between manufacturers
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This might make a nice sticky if done right.
I'm on the look out for some new shoes, but my research on the differences between manufacturers sizing is getting confusing. I'm a UK11 for shoes/trainers, and currently have a pair of el-cheepo Muddy Fox shoes in a UK11 which are if anything a little large.
I bought some Giro shoes online (see parts thread) in a EU46.5 (largest size they had) which are a perfect fit on the left but just s smidge too tight on the right (my right foot is about half a size larger than the left) So these will be returned, and I'm looking at what else is on offer (I'm a stingy bugger
) but want to try and establish what size I should be looking at for each of the manufacturers.
So your experiences please.
I would ideally of course go into the shop, but the nearest is 40 miles away (I have a voucher for Evans) and I'd feel a fraud going into the LBS to try them on knowing full well I wouldn't be buying from there (plus they don't have a particularly good range)
I'm on the look out for some new shoes, but my research on the differences between manufacturers sizing is getting confusing. I'm a UK11 for shoes/trainers, and currently have a pair of el-cheepo Muddy Fox shoes in a UK11 which are if anything a little large.
I bought some Giro shoes online (see parts thread) in a EU46.5 (largest size they had) which are a perfect fit on the left but just s smidge too tight on the right (my right foot is about half a size larger than the left) So these will be returned, and I'm looking at what else is on offer (I'm a stingy bugger
) but want to try and establish what size I should be looking at for each of the manufacturers.So your experiences please.
I would ideally of course go into the shop, but the nearest is 40 miles away (I have a voucher for Evans) and I'd feel a fraud going into the LBS to try them on knowing full well I wouldn't be buying from there (plus they don't have a particularly good range)
I'm a UK 11/11.5 and wear 12 (47) in Spesh shoes (MTB and road). I have quite wide feet and they are a tad narrow, but not bad. I also wear the Five Ten Maltese Falcon in a 12 (47) which are a good fit and quite roomy.
I've had Shimano shoes in the past which were at least one size too small, maybe more - very narrow too.
I've had Shimano shoes in the past which were at least one size too small, maybe more - very narrow too.
Edited by benny.c on Friday 22 November 16:35
benny.c said:
I'm a UK 11/11.5 and wear 12 (47) in Spesh shoes (MTB and road). I have quite wide feet and they are a tad narrow, but not bad. I also wear the Five Ten Maltese Falcon in a 12 (47) which are a good fit and quite roomy.
I've had Shimano shoes in the past which were at least one size too small, maybe more - very narrow too.
Similar here: I've had Shimano shoes in the past which were at least one size too small, maybe more - very narrow too.
Edited by benny.c on Friday 22 November 16:35
Normal shoes average 11.5
Scott 46
Nike 47
Shimano 48
I've had to go up a couple of sizes from my 'usual' to fit into a Shimano shoe. I've got short, wide feet, so had to have the shoe 'too long' to get enough width for my fat toes. I also have odd size feet, with one nearly a full size bigger than t'other, which further complicates things when I buy even 'regular' shoes. It gets REALLY complex when I look for cycling shoes, hence why I try to look after the ones I have for as long as possible.
yellowjack said:
I've had to go up a couple of sizes from my 'usual' to fit into a Shimano shoe. I've got short, wide feet, so had to have the shoe 'too long' to get enough width for my fat toes. I also have odd size feet, with one nearly a full size bigger than t'other, which further complicates things when I buy even 'regular' shoes. It gets REALLY complex when I look for cycling shoes, hence why I try to look after the ones I have for as long as possible.
Shimano offer wide fittings for some of their shoes (R170 for one), which reduces the need to mess about with shoe sizes.Jimbo. said:
yellowjack said:
I've had to go up a couple of sizes from my 'usual' to fit into a Shimano shoe. I've got short, wide feet, so had to have the shoe 'too long' to get enough width for my fat toes. I also have odd size feet, with one nearly a full size bigger than t'other, which further complicates things when I buy even 'regular' shoes. It gets REALLY complex when I look for cycling shoes, hence why I try to look after the ones I have for as long as possible.
Shimano offer wide fittings for some of their shoes (R170 for one), which reduces the need to mess about with shoe sizes.(I'm normally a 42/UK8 but some shoes/trainers I'm a 9 (adidas) or an 8/12 (Converse)).
My current summer shoes are DHB and I have to go up two sizes to get anything I could even get my foot in. So the DHBs I had to get were a 44.
I had two pairs of Lake shoes (both 43) though they both fell apart and I wouldn't recommend them.
I've had a couple of pairs of Specialized and I'm normally a 43.
I had a pair of Canondale shoes (until the stiffened sole plate snapped in one) and they were 43.
I've had some nikes which were a snug 43.
Winter boots, I've had two pairs and both times I've gone up two sizes to ensure I've got room for thick socks. Both have been Shimano boots and both were 44.
My current summer shoes are DHB and I have to go up two sizes to get anything I could even get my foot in. So the DHBs I had to get were a 44.
I had two pairs of Lake shoes (both 43) though they both fell apart and I wouldn't recommend them.
I've had a couple of pairs of Specialized and I'm normally a 43.
I had a pair of Canondale shoes (until the stiffened sole plate snapped in one) and they were 43.
I've had some nikes which were a snug 43.
Winter boots, I've had two pairs and both times I've gone up two sizes to ensure I've got room for thick socks. Both have been Shimano boots and both were 44.
Thought I'd bring this up from the past.
I'm normally a UK11 and have been wearing a Specialized 47 shoe. These are ok, but I still get a bit of numbness on the outside of one foot. The dog has chewed them beyond repair though!
Been looking at some Giro Apeckx hv but finding someone who has stock is impossible. Even Evans want a week to order them in! Has anyone tried a Giro HV model and how do they compare to specialized for width?
I'm normally a UK11 and have been wearing a Specialized 47 shoe. These are ok, but I still get a bit of numbness on the outside of one foot. The dog has chewed them beyond repair though!
Been looking at some Giro Apeckx hv but finding someone who has stock is impossible. Even Evans want a week to order them in! Has anyone tried a Giro HV model and how do they compare to specialized for width?
I find specialized shoes quite narrow in the toe box area, I started out with a decent pair ~£160 but have since switched to Bont, owning a couple of pairs of those now.
The extra width of even the standard fit and the heat mould make them much comfier for me.
I wear size 9 and wear size 9.5 in Bont.
The extra width of even the standard fit and the heat mould make them much comfier for me.
I wear size 9 and wear size 9.5 in Bont.
UK size 11, Specialized size 46 in road shoes fit nice.
Just returned a pair of Bont Vaypors, I used the Bont calculator and ordered a pair of 46 which I could barely get my feet into, really painful in the toe box! They may have improved after going in the oven but wasn't going to risk it.
Ended up with Northwave Extreme Tech+ in a 46 which fit great, plenty of room. Also have Northwave winter boots in a 46, again loads of room in the width.
Was gutted to send the Bonts back. If they fitted well I reckon they would be amazing. My big toe is shorter than my second toe which I think was the issue with them.
Just returned a pair of Bont Vaypors, I used the Bont calculator and ordered a pair of 46 which I could barely get my feet into, really painful in the toe box! They may have improved after going in the oven but wasn't going to risk it.
Ended up with Northwave Extreme Tech+ in a 46 which fit great, plenty of room. Also have Northwave winter boots in a 46, again loads of room in the width.
Was gutted to send the Bonts back. If they fitted well I reckon they would be amazing. My big toe is shorter than my second toe which I think was the issue with them.
5678 said:
Been looking at some Bont Riots this morning too. Do they come up wide relative to other stuff? Again, it seems finding a stockist will be difficult!
I did plenty of research on the Bonts and apparently they are wide compared to many others. Think my feet must be weird because they were stupid tight! This was sizing up slightly too.If you want to try them just order from wiggle so you get the free returns. I know everyone's feet are different so you may get on with them but I would have a look at the Northwave range. They definitely have more room and a similar fit to Specialized.
Ordered some Bont riots in a 46.5 to try.
Also popped into Evans earlier and they had some Giro Apeckx in a 46 but not the HV versions. Tried them on and they were close fitting without being uncomfortable to stand it. So I'm going to order a pair of the HV and non HV in a 46 and pick one of the 3 pairs.
Bought a set of Shimano 105 pedals too.
Also popped into Evans earlier and they had some Giro Apeckx in a 46 but not the HV versions. Tried them on and they were close fitting without being uncomfortable to stand it. So I'm going to order a pair of the HV and non HV in a 46 and pick one of the 3 pairs.
Bought a set of Shimano 105 pedals too.
Seeing as I'm the OP and this has popped back into "my stuff" I aught to update it from my side.
I'm normally an 11 (sometimes a 12) in shoes/trainers, and went with nice Northwave shoes in the end. Had to go up to EU size 47 to get a good fit though, so roughly a size above normal shoes.
I'm normally an 11 (sometimes a 12) in shoes/trainers, and went with nice Northwave shoes in the end. Had to go up to EU size 47 to get a good fit though, so roughly a size above normal shoes.
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