Titanium HT or Old FS......
Titanium HT or Old FS......
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Dixie

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740 posts

264 months

Thursday 12th December 2013
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What would you guys do.

I have an old Scott Genius MC50 which to be fair I haven't ridden properly in a while. I'm looking to resurrect it to use as a winter commuter but the frame is very soft and saps power for road use. I will use it off road but not so much that I need rear suspension.

I have the opportunity to buy an old Rock Lobster Titanium frameset from a friend. Do you think it would be worth swapping the frame? I'd have to either have it modified (£50 from a local from frame builder) or use a bracket of some kind for the rear disk.

Other than that and a front mech all parts should go straight over. Hmmm not sure what to do....

Thoughts.

GaryGlitter

2,287 posts

212 months

Thursday 12th December 2013
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What back brake does the Lobster use, why the need to bodge the frame to fit a disk?

Just get an el cheapo rear wheel and a V/canti brake.

Dixie

Original Poster:

740 posts

264 months

Thursday 12th December 2013
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By the time i'd bought a rear wheel (I have an almost new pair of crossmax discs) and a set of V brakes i'll have spend £50. The frame changes would be done by Venon Barker whos got a decent reputation for this kind of stuff.

And can you remember how rubbish v brakes were compared to discs.

I had thought about doing what you suggested though.

GaryGlitter

2,287 posts

212 months

Thursday 12th December 2013
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ti and Crossmax on a commuter - flash barsteward!

And back brakes are only for skids.


Watchman

6,391 posts

274 months

Thursday 12th December 2013
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GaryGlitter said:
And back brakes are only for skids.
You say that like it's a bad thing. hehe

I love the idea - Ti and Crossmax - great combo.

aka_kerrly

12,505 posts

239 months

Thursday 12th December 2013
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Dixie said:
And can you remember how rubbish v brakes were compared to discs.

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They aren't rubbish if they are set up right. Their major limitation during winter riding is that they become rubbish when you get muddy water all over the rims/pads.

Regarding the disc mount issue, A2Z do a universal rear disc mount adapter which is held in by the rear hub quick release or an alternative version which also includes a mount to the original rear brake boss to.


Dixie

Original Poster:

740 posts

264 months

Friday 13th December 2013
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Whoops. Not cross max. Cross ride. Very much more humble than the ever so pricey cross max. Sorry about that.

My thinking for the rear caliper is that it's only £50. Surly that's the best option.

Or is changing the frame a really bad idea?

Any idea what a genius mc50 frame would be worth?

aka_kerrly

12,505 posts

239 months

Friday 13th December 2013
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Another option could be to swap the rear shock to a air shock that has a lock out function. Fox floats offer this and it is an effective way of using a full sus as a all rounder.

Watchman

6,391 posts

274 months

Friday 13th December 2013
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Dixie said:
Whoops. Not cross max. Cross ride. Very much more humble than the ever so pricey cross max. Sorry about that.

My thinking for the rear caliper is that it's only £50. Surly that's the best option.

Or is changing the frame a really bad idea?

Any idea what a genius mc50 frame would be worth?
All well, Ti and Crossmax would have made me so jealous I'd have exploded. Think I'm safe now. Thanks. smile


I'd have the appropriate mounts welded/brazed on if it were mine, but I'd also probably hedge my bets by having a tube of Ti welded between the chainstay and seatstay to ensure the force imparted by the caliper was shared between the two.

And I'd want the original brake mounts removed and the area tidied-up. I really dislike cable-operated brakes now I've been spoilt by hydraulics and I don't like extraneous lugs on my frame. A Ti frame is probably worth getting right.