First tyre replacement, any advice?
First tyre replacement, any advice?
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dave0010

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1,424 posts

190 months

Sunday 18th May 2014
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I currently have a set of Espoir Elite 25c blackbelt x2 tyres on my bike. They came on the bike and have been faultless the whole time. I'm still yet to get a single puncture and I've ridden a few thousand miles on them.

Its time now thought to replace them due to some damage on the tyres. Are these a good tyre to stick with or am I better going with any other tyres?

nammynake

2,658 posts

202 months

Sunday 18th May 2014
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Conti GP4000s are well rated. Light, comfortable, grippy and pretty resilient to p*nctures. Excellent in the wet too.

n.b. GP4000"s", not the inferior 4000.

Disco You

3,748 posts

209 months

Sunday 18th May 2014
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Michelin pro4 service course and continental grand prix 4000 S are probably the two highest rated all round tyres.

I also like the vredstein fortezza tricomp as a slightly cheaper, more durable alternative.

All you seem concerned about is puncture resistance though, if that is the case then you can sacrifice weight, rolling resistance and grip and get some Schwalbe Marathon (plus).

dave0010

Original Poster:

1,424 posts

190 months

Sunday 18th May 2014
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I'd like to find the best combination of puncture resistant and best rolling resistance. I've heard and read about the conti gp4000s and head nothing but good things.

Are all inner tubes pretty much the same too? I'd like to replace them at the same time so its all new. Its all new to me as not had to change any of them out before.

okgo

42,128 posts

227 months

Sunday 18th May 2014
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Don't bother replacing the tubes.

Steve vRS

5,394 posts

270 months

Sunday 18th May 2014
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Another vote for the Contis here. I found my Strava times up after changing my Schwalbes for them. Had a puncture though but the thorn I pulled out of the tyre would have gone through rhino hide.

Steve

dave0010

Original Poster:

1,424 posts

190 months

Sunday 18th May 2014
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okgo said:
Don't bother replacing the tubes.
Is this because they have a longer life expectancy? or something else?

Cookie220

856 posts

240 months

Sunday 18th May 2014
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dave0010 said:
Is this because they have a longer life expectancy? or something else?
It's because if they're not punctured, they are still fine. Even if they puncture, patch em up and carry on

yellowjack

18,443 posts

195 months

Sunday 18th May 2014
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Can't speak for the Grand Prix 4000S, but I can heartily recommend the Continental Grand Prix 4Seasons, for all year round use.

And don't bother replacing tubes unless they're properly jiffed. I keep a proper 'traditional' repair kit in the garage, and on the bike. Some of my tubes have 5 patches on them. They're repairable unless you get a fresh p****ure right next to a patch, or the valve stem gets torn out of the body of the tube. Slinging a fresh tube in every time you p****ure is wasteful, and an unnecessary expense, plus repairing them is a restful activity, and will give you time to reflect while you wait for the glue to dry...

scubadude

2,619 posts

226 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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nammynake said:
Conti GP4000s are well rated. Light, comfortable, grippy and pretty resilient to p*nctures. Excellent in the wet too.

+1 Got almost 2000miles on a set now, they grip like a vice and as above remarkably usable in the wet, not cheap but I'll buy another set.

drinks

120 posts

263 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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Just seen that conti are doing a tyre amnesty to launch a new tyre. Worth giving your local dealer a ring to see if they are participating. They even swap them over for you apparently.
http://www.tyre-amnesty.co.uk/index.php/offer-deta...

MadDad

3,835 posts

290 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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Funny, for all of the rave reviews about Conti's I have never managed to get on with them, or have any luck with them! I had GP4000's that I found very sketchy on fast descents and all seasons that split badly down the sidewalls after about 200 miles - gave the GP's away and junked the all seasons.

Opinion of one of the LBS's is that Conti's tend to suit a better built riders, skinny runts like yours truly don't get on so well with them!

I like the Open Corsa's and Pave's but they are extremely expensive and not very durable, slightest bit of damp on the road and the Corsa's puncture!

I have settled on Vredestein's as my tyre of choice; Foretezza Tri-comps for the summer months and Quattros for the winter, fast rolling, extremely gripping in the bendy bits and excellent puncture protection. However, a friend who rides on Conti's hate Vredestein's with a passion!!!!

okgo

42,128 posts

227 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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That sounds like utter rubbish from your LBS tbh.

I know many riders who run them with no issue, ranging from 58kg through to 100kg. You can get a dodgy tyre from anyone of course, but certainly it has nothing to do with your weight.

madzo14

159 posts

151 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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Running Schwalbe One's at the minute (came with new bike) and have not had a problem so far. Good grip in the wet, no lumps or cuts out of them yet that I had with GP4000's last summer and found they didn't like the wet too much.

dave0010

Original Poster:

1,424 posts

190 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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drinks said:
Just seen that conti are doing a tyre amnesty to launch a new tyre. Worth giving your local dealer a ring to see if they are participating. They even swap them over for you apparently.
http://www.tyre-amnesty.co.uk/index.php/offer-deta...
They say on there site that dealers were announced yesterday, any idea who they are as can't find a list? my misses needs a new set and this may be perfect

drinks

120 posts

263 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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No idea of dealers, can't find a list online. My LBS tweeted about it so thought I'd post it here. Sounds like it is worth a couple of calls to see who's participating though. Let us know how you get on.

caul pope

250 posts

197 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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Loving the sound of this amnesty. How come they're not promoting who's participating!?!?!

Jimbo.

4,220 posts

218 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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Schwale are overrated, fragile ste. Avoid.

Contis are OK: the GP4000S is grippy enough, but feels dead (akin to riding on old hosepipes, as so often said) and I've nailed a few sidewalls on potholes.

Vredesteins are OK: the Fortezza Tricomp is big, fat 'n' comfortable. Had a sidewall fail on my last pair, but suspect that was isolated.

Veloflex Master 25s are gorgeous, but don't last and come up skinny. Suspect they're very, VERY fragile (the tan sidewall is the cotton structure!), but in the short time I ran them, I had no punctures despite being, ahem...ignorant...of potholes.

(320TPI) Vittorias are where it's. I've run Open Paves (with latex tubes) for a couple of years (inc. battering them across Flanders a couple of times) and they've never, EVER let me down. They stick like st to a blanket and roll beautifully. They don't last too long and they're not cheap, but when they're this good, I don't care. Recently binned a rear (squared off and somewhat thin) and switched to a backup Vredestein as a precaution: it's horrible in comparison. Got some Open Corsas en route, can't wait...

MadDad

3,835 posts

290 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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Jimbo. said:
Got some Open Corsas en route, can't wait...
You will love them, they are fantastic but if it starts raining while you are out pick the bike up and carry it!! smile

Matt_N

9,035 posts

231 months

Tuesday 20th May 2014
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My LBS do Conti and I've got a pair of tyres that are right on the limit, so I'll be enquiring if they're participating.