Puncture resistant tyres

[E65Ross]

Hi guys,

When my current vredstein fortezza tricomp tyres need replacing I'm looking for some good puncture resistant tyres for after the summer and then the winter. I've heard good things about these....

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/vittoria-pave-cg-open-clin...

Are there any better recommendations out there? Are the gatorskins better?

I'm after tyres which still offer a reasonably good ride and don't offer toooo much rolling resistance if possible.

Many thanks

[S10GTA]

Gatorskins are crap

4 seasons are okay

Duranos are awesome

(I've used all 3 in the past and two of my bikes now have duranos)

[rhinochopig]

I'm a heavy lump 16.5 stone and 6' 5" so have always been more puncture prone than most. Last year I swapped to FOSS tubes from DX.com in Hong Kong.

They're made from TPE (think inflatable swimming pool material) and are a lot lighter than most rubber tubes.

Anyway, I've not had a puncture since fitting them and that's with Conti GP 4000S 2 which are quite puncture prone IME.

http://www.dx.com/s/foss

Those tubes may save you adding several hundred grams of rotating mass.

[E65Ross]

Thanks chaps

Of the duranos, which are the better ones?

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/schwalbe/road-race-tyres/?...

Thanks again

[richardxjr]

If you don't mind red sidewall & 23c, grab some of the last Planet X Rage K (Kevlar) foldings.
Fantastic, £14ea.

[S10GTA]

E65Ross said:

Thanks chaps

Of the duranos, which are the better ones?

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/schwalbe/road-race-tyres/?...

Thanks again

These

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/schwalbe-durano-plus-perfo...

[E65Ross]

S10GTA said:

E65Ross said:

Thanks chaps

Of the duranos, which are the better ones?

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/schwalbe/road-race-tyres/?...

Thanks again

These

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/schwalbe-durano-plus-perfo...

Perfect, thanks! And these offer a decent tread for winter riding? suspect I'll go for the 25c ones

[S10GTA]

E65Ross said:

S10GTA said:

E65Ross said:

Thanks chaps

Of the duranos, which are the better ones?

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/schwalbe/road-race-tyres/?...

Thanks again

These

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/schwalbe-durano-plus-perfo...

Perfect, thanks! And these offer a decent tread for winter riding? suspect I'll go for the 25c ones

Yep. They've just been revised so the new tread is better than the old (apparently)

[TonyHetherington]

I read in cyclist recently that tread has no bearing on a 23/25 tyre at all; it's purely there to look like it should do something as people don't want to buy slick winter tyres.

The principle of tread is to stop you aquaplaning by clearing the water. But on a slick tyre you need to be doing something like 120mph to aquaplane on a bike

[E65Ross]

TonyHetherington said:

I read in cyclist recently that tread has no bearing on a 23/25 tyre at all; it's purely there to look like it should do something as people don't want to buy slick winter tyres.

The principle of tread is to stop you aquaplaning by clearing the water. But on a slick tyre you need to be doing something like 120mph to aquaplane on a bike

So it's more about the rubber compound rather than the tread which aids with grip....What are the benefits of a 25c vs a 23c....obviously as a downside they have more rolling resistance but I'm guessing they offer more grip. What about durability?

Cheers

[S10GTA]

E65Ross said:

TonyHetherington said:

I read in cyclist recently that tread has no bearing on a 23/25 tyre at all; it's purely there to look like it should do something as people don't want to buy slick winter tyres.

The principle of tread is to stop you aquaplaning by clearing the water. But on a slick tyre you need to be doing something like 120mph to aquaplane on a bike

So it's more about the rubber compound rather than the tread which aids with grip....What are the benefits of a 25c vs a 23c....obviously as a downside they have more rolling resistance but I'm guessing they offer more grip. What about durability?

Cheers

Very little between 23/25. Most pros now ride 25 as more comfortable with little loss in performance.

[Matt_N]

E65Ross said:

So it's more about the rubber compound rather than the tread which aids with grip....What are the benefits of a 25c vs a 23c....obviously as a downside they have more rolling resistance but I'm guessing they offer more grip. What about durability?

Cheers

25c actually offer less rolling resistance compared to a 23c and provide a better ride due to the profile the tyre forms.

Wide rims and 25c or even 28c are sublime to ride on.

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/learn/25-vs-23

Edited by Matt_N on Thursday 14th May 12:26

[Accelebrate]

I ran Gatorskins for a while off the back of favourable reviews. I'd say they offer average puncture protection, but wet grip wasn't great. I switched to 4 Seasons but had a tyre sliced beyond repair within a few hundred miles (probably just bad luck). I fitted some Specialized tyres with 'black belt' protection that I won in a competition not expecting much. They've been brilliant! No punctures in ~1000 miles so far.

[anonymous-user]

E65Ross said:

TonyHetherington said:

I read in cyclist recently that tread has no bearing on a 23/25 tyre at all; it's purely there to look like it should do something as people don't want to buy slick winter tyres.

The principle of tread is to stop you aquaplaning by clearing the water. But on a slick tyre you need to be doing something like 120mph to aquaplane on a bike

So it's more about the rubber compound rather than the tread which aids with grip....What are the benefits of a 25c vs a 23c....obviously as a downside they have more rolling resistance but I'm guessing they offer more grip. What about durability?

Cheers

Tony is right, tread does nothing, there isnt enough of it to be effective at dispersing the water.

short the advantage of 25 over 23 is reduced rolling resitance, greater volume (aids comfort) and at less pressure (reduces punctures)

http://inrng.com/2013/04/reinventing-the-wheel-25m...

[E65Ross]

So... What's the benefit of a 23c then!?

[TwistingMyMelon]

I fins 23s a bit more nimble

I run tricomps and had no punctures for 2000 miles then got one, replaced the tyre and got another puncture on the next ride. They are a barstard to get on when new as well (easy when worn) , maybe the inner tube wasn't properly seated from the new tyre.

I really rated them, but they have been replaced by a new model

Those Planetx Rage looks good, as I want red tyres for my bikes, anyone else got any experience? I want puncture resistance, grip on damp corners

[richardxjr]

I've switched several mates over to the Rage Ks, all happy and no visits from what I know. Well worth a try at that money! Yes, they grip btw.
Threw a second set of GP4000s away (inherited on a wheelset I bought) after multiple punctures from the tiniest shards.

[TwistingMyMelon]

Cheers for that will try them for my next pair@ £15 a pair and a personal recommendation you cant complain

[Batfink]

I've moved from gatorskins to GP4000S and its been a revelation in ride comfort without any increase in punctures. I am about 10 stone though. The tyres have done over 700 miles this year since the winter so have been used in all conditions. There are some tears in the rear tyre but nothing has got through the puncture resistant layer.

[dirty boy]

Batfink said:

I've moved from gatorskins to GP4000S and its been a revelation in ride comfort without any increase in punctures. I am about 10 stone though. The tyres have done over 700 miles this year since the winter so have been used in all conditions. There are some tears in the rear tyre but nothing has got through the puncture resistant layer.

I'm on conti 4000GPs. Did 400 miles last week (St David's to Lowestoft) and not one puncture. Others I rode with on Gators and suchlike all had punctures.

Love them.