CX as a road bike..
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sam1176uk

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158 posts

210 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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Hi,

Just wanted some opinions on using my current CX bike as a summer road bike, my wife has been using my carbon road bike and enjoying it, so i was considering some slick tyres for my carbon CX bike to use on the road.
Will it be much slower than a carbon road bike? My CX has disc brakes so it seems like a new road bike with disc brakes will be very similar to my CX bike.

Thanks

Bobley

730 posts

178 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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Just replied on bikeradar

gazza285

11,125 posts

237 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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It will be just fine, no slower with road tyres on.

matt-ITR

892 posts

218 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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Differences verses a road bike likely to be a higher BB (although reduced with skinny tyre), slacker head angle and shorter reach.
You won't be much slower.

battered

4,088 posts

176 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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It will be like any road bike. Personally I think the differences are overrated once you fit slicks. I regularly use an old 1995 MTB fitted with 26 x 1.5 slicks, it's my commuter/tourer, and it's not significantly slower than a road bike in everyday use. The tyres make a huge difference, when I removed my knobblies and fitted slicks it was worth about 2mph across the average commute.

If you are racing or doing centuries, then OK, there's a difference. Otherwise, the difference is the engine.

ecsrobin

18,646 posts

194 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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battered said:
It will be like any road bike. Personally I think the differences are overrated once you fit slicks. I regularly use an old 1995 MTB fitted with 26 x 1.5 slicks, it's my commuter/tourer, and it's not significantly slower than a road bike in everyday use. The tyres make a huge difference, when I removed my knobblies and fitted slicks it was worth about 2mph across the average commute.

If you are racing or doing centuries, then OK, there's a difference. Otherwise, the difference is the engine.
On my 3 mile commute I'm actually quicker on my full sus mountain bike with it locked out. I think mainly as I don't need to dodge potholes and I think I'm slower so work harder.

MC Bodge

29,596 posts

204 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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Like for like, a CX bike on slicks is very similar to a road bike for solo riding. My road bike is quicker than my CX hack, but the road bike is lighter, on better wheels, thinner, faster tyres -and it is kept cleaner wink my CX bike is quicker on potholed tracks and can carry panniers, though.

Fluffsri

3,410 posts

225 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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My Carbon road bike has been made redundant! I now use my CX bike all the time. I commute to work on tarmac but can go home on a canal path/woody route. I have a set of rims with road tyres on and a set of rims with knobblies on. To be fair over the 8 mile tarmac commute, if I have the knobblies on its not a lot slower.Mopre fun on the way home though as I can turn 8 miles into 20 quite easily nwith only 2 miles of tarmac smile

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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MC Bodge said:
Like for like, a CX bike on slicks is very similar to a road bike for solo riding. My road bike is quicker than my CX hack, but the road bike is lighter, on better wheels, thinner, faster tyres -and it is kept cleaner wink my CX bike is quicker on potholed tracks and can carry panniers, though.
Big difference in geometry though. My old CX wasn't much slower than a road bike but the geometry wasn't that suitable for road use.

Steve vRS

5,391 posts

270 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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The big difference between my road CX bike is the gearing. On downhils, I spin out at 25mph on the CX bike. So not a huge issue generally!

It is heavier and I feel it when setting off and accelerating more than anything as the wheels are MUCH heavier than my road wheels.

Steve

TwistingMyMelon

6,507 posts

234 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Depends if it is a "proppa" CX or a Commuter/Winter bike CX

As said if its a full CX machine then gearing and geo could be an issue on long rides

You might notice a difference you might not, depends on you as a rider

I'm noticably quikcer on my summer Carbon bike than my Winter Steel machine, winter bike is heavier and more upright geo, with lower ratio gears.

Steve vRS

5,391 posts

270 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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My CX bike is 'proppa' with a 36/46 crank and I race it - poorly biggrin

The new single crank CX racers with a 42 tooth chainring would be even more unsuited to road use. Unless all you did was go up hill.

Steve

jamiebae

6,245 posts

240 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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What chainset do you have on the CX bike? A proper CX chainset and it won't be much fun but if it has a normal compact 50/34 then it'll be fine. There are a few decent looking sets of wheels which would do the job, Wiggle have launched their own Cosine branded ones which look decent and light, add some nice 25c or 28c road tyres and you're away.

MC Bodge

29,596 posts

204 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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yonex said:
MC Bodge said:
Like for like, a CX bike on slicks is very similar to a road bike for solo riding. My road bike is quicker than my CX hack, but the road bike is lighter, on better wheels, thinner, faster tyres -and it is kept cleaner wink my CX bike is quicker on potholed tracks and can carry panniers, though.
Big difference in geometry though. My old CX wasn't much slower than a road bike but the geometry wasn't that suitable for road use.
There are differences in geometry, but "unsuitable for road use"?????

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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MC Bodge said:
There are differences in geometry, but "unsuitable for road use"?????
Twitchy, fast steering, short head tube, not overly stable at speed. All the things that make it great as a CX bike but less brilliant on the road. Each to their own, if it works for you you've got a great best of both worlds.

MC Bodge

29,596 posts

204 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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yonex said:
MC Bodge said:
There are differences in geometry, but "unsuitable for road use"?????
Twitchy, fast steering, short head tube, not overly stable at speed. All the things that make it great as a CX bike but less brilliant on the road. Each to their own, if it works for you you've got a great best of both worlds.
Each to their own indeed, but....

Mine is an 8? year old Crosslight which has a flattened underside cross bar and a carbon fork. It was probably fairly racy in its day. The steering isn't twitchy compared with a road bike (as opposed to a tourer). I suspect that the wheelbase is fairly long (to accommodate 35mm off-road tyres) as it isn't unstable at speed either. I know a chap who does big miles on a Planet X XLS at decent speed.

battered

4,088 posts

176 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Fluffsri said:
My Carbon road bike has been made redundant! I now use my CX bike all the time. I commute to work on tarmac but can go home on a canal path/woody route. I have a set of rims with road tyres on and a set of rims with knobblies on.
This is why my old MTB gets more use than my roady. It has slicks but is OK on rough tracks, and it's got guards and panniers, so it's just a more versatile machine.

Quote: "my CX bike is quicker on potholed tracks and can carry panniers, though."
Panniers on a CX? Sounds like a commuter/tourer. Nothing wrong with that but why would you put hangers on a CX?

Quote: "My CX bike spins out at 25mph" Really? What gears? My old MTB (see above) with 22/34/42 (or whatever) front and 11-31 rear spins out between 30 and 35, so 25 must be really low. Now OK, to get mine to 35 you have to spin like Chris Hoy, but I've done it on descents occasionally.

MC Bodge

29,596 posts

204 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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I used p-clips to mount my pannier rack and mudguard on the cyclocross-framed bike on 28mm tyres which is set up as my winter commuter.

Riding a cyclocross bike on the road, on road tyres, is perfectly possible and acceptable.

There is a degree of prejudice and bike-type-snobbishness on this thread, non?


anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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MC Bodge said:
Each to their own indeed, but....

Mine is an 8? year old Crosslight which has a flattened underside cross bar and a carbon fork. It was probably fairly racy in its day. The steering isn't twitchy compared with a road bike (as opposed to a tourer). I suspect that the wheelbase is fairly long (to accommodate 35mm off-road tyres) as it isn't unstable at speed either. I know a chap who does big miles on a Planet X XLS at decent speed.
Well the Crosslight I had was a poor road bike. I sold it and bought a cheap road bike and a mtb as I felt
It was only good for what it designed for i.e racing around fields smile

MC Bodge

29,596 posts

204 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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yonex said:
MC Bodge said:
Each to their own indeed, but....

Mine is an 8? year old Crosslight which has a flattened underside cross bar and a carbon fork. It was probably fairly racy in its day. The steering isn't twitchy compared with a road bike (as opposed to a tourer). I suspect that the wheelbase is fairly long (to accommodate 35mm off-road tyres) as it isn't unstable at speed either. I know a chap who does big miles on a Planet X XLS at decent speed.
Well the Crosslight I had was a poor road bike. I sold it and bought a cheap road bike and a mtb as I felt
It was only good for what it designed for i.e racing around fields smile
Maybe it was the wrong size or you are just too good a rider for a cross bike on the road? A bit like the people who declare that cars with 100bhp are "dangerously slow " ? wink

My Crosslight has done 1,000s of miles, mostly on the road commuting, with some light (and not so light) off road. The riding position has been set to be very similar to my road bike, it is not twitchy or unstable at 40+ mph. With decent road wheels and tyres it would be fast with a fit rider on board.