Talk to me about road tyres
Talk to me about road tyres
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GuinnessMK

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1,608 posts

251 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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After 25 years of riding mountain bikes, I've recently got a (new to me) N+1 road bike (clinchers). I strongly suspect it's still on it's original tyres, 700cx23 which are pretty much slick and the side walls are beginning to show some signs of brittleness.

It appears that in the 20 odd years since I last road a road bike, tyre sizes got smaller, and are now getting bigger again.

I think there is probably clearance for a pair of 28mm tyres, but there is so much choice. I've previously used Scwhalbe Marathon Plus when I was doing a lot of road miles on the mountain bike and I especially liked the reflective sidewalls at night.

I can get them in 700c28 but they look to have just too much tread compared to the 23mm slicks that are on there now.

Any recommendations?

bakerstreet

5,040 posts

194 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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GuinnessMK said:
After 25 years of riding mountain bikes, I've recently got a (new to me) N+1 road bike (clinchers). I strongly suspect it's still on it's original tyres, 700cx23 which are pretty much slick and the side walls are beginning to show some signs of brittleness.

It appears that in the 20 odd years since I last road a road bike, tyre sizes got smaller, and are now getting bigger again.

I think there is probably clearance for a pair of 28mm tyres, but there is so much choice. I've previously used Scwhalbe Marathon Plus when I was doing a lot of road miles on the mountain bike and I especially liked the reflective sidewalls at night.

I can get them in 700c28 but they look to have just too much tread compared to the 23mm slicks that are on there now.

Any recommendations?
You can get Continental Gatorskins in 28mm as well as four seasons. I've ridden both and preferred the Gatorkins for reliability, but the four seasons are more comfortable on the road.

If you want ultimate puncture protection, then by all means go for the marathons again, but they are very heavy and the gatorskins or the four seasons will be quicker on the road.

Batfink

1,032 posts

287 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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If you want puncture protection with a harsh ride get the Gatorskins.

I've moved to Continental GP4000S and they are so much more comfortable, less puncture protection but i've had similar amount of punctures over the last year. Most punctures I get are pinch punctures when the tyres get lower on pressure so its easy to fix. They wear out quicker but I wont go back

Gren

2,030 posts

281 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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What are you looking for? Commuting, on road only, Sunday best, all year round or summer?

I tend to ride Conti GP4000s in the warmer months and GP4S in the wetter/cold months. Both 25mm. Not the cheapest but plenty of deals around and it's worth spending a bit on the one part of the bike that keeps you upright.

There's better around if you're going to commute or need better puncture protection but then you're trading off weight and grip.

benny.c

3,771 posts

236 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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Gren said:
…..Conti GP4000s in the warmer months and GP4S in the wetter/cold months. Both 25mm….
I concur.

Mr Will

13,719 posts

235 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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benny.c said:
Gren said:
…..Conti GP4000s in the warmer months and GP4S in the wetter/cold months. Both 25mm….
I concur.
Ditto.

Avoid Gatorskins/Marathons unless absolutely the only thing you care about is puncture protection.

astroarcadia

1,725 posts

229 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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Conti GP4000 on the road bike.

Conti GP4seasons on the cross bike.

both 25.

walm

10,644 posts

231 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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Mr Will said:
Ditto.

Avoid Gatorskins/Marathons unless absolutely the only thing you care about is puncture protection.
Indeed.
I run Gatorskins on 23 - built like a panic room and similarly pliable.

louiebaby

10,945 posts

220 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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walm said:
I run Gatorskins on 23 - built like a panic room and similarly pliable.
I run Gatorskins, and have for years. I don't know much about the ride quality, but they don't get punctures often. I keep the pressures around 110 - 120 psi anyway, as I'm 100-odd kgs. I doubt many other tyres would be very compliant at those pressures...

df76

4,222 posts

307 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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I've used Continental GT tyres (25mm only) for the last couple of years and they've been excellent, with zero punctures.

Mr Will

13,719 posts

235 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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louiebaby said:
walm said:
I run Gatorskins on 23 - built like a panic room and similarly pliable.
I run Gatorskins, and have for years. I don't know much about the ride quality, but they don't get punctures often. I keep the pressures around 110 - 120 psi anyway, as I'm 100-odd kgs. I doubt many other tyres would be very compliant at those pressures...
I suspect you'd be surprised. Gatorskins are for bikes what run-flats are for cars - even if the pressures and sizes are exactly the same the reinforced side-walls make a big difference.

PorkRind

3,053 posts

234 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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If youre festively plump (15st), I don't find the conti's much good for puncture resistance (pinch) even at 110 psi.. I've found the schwable durano's to be a good durable tyre that resists punctures.. 1800 miles good so far on my rear... I use the conti gp on the front though, as theyre nice and sticky..

GuinnessMK

Original Poster:

1,608 posts

251 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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Thanks guys. Will have a look for a deal on a paor of 4000's then.


Black can man

31,973 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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Another Schwalbe Durano user here, Really can't do punctures.

Matt_N

9,035 posts

231 months

Thursday 18th February 2016
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Vittoria Open Corsa CX trump GP4000 in my and lots of others opinions.

A true 320 TPI casing gives an almost tubular ride quality when paired 25mm on wide rims.

Mr Will

13,719 posts

235 months

Friday 19th February 2016
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Matt_N said:
Vittoria Open Corsa CX trump GP4000 in my and lots of others opinions.

A true 320 TPI casing gives an almost tubular ride quality when paired 25mm on wide rims.
They are what I ride, but I hesitate to recommend them too widely. Absolutely lovely tyres, but quite fragile and quick wearing. The GP4000S is a better compromise for most people.

jamiebae

6,245 posts

240 months

Friday 19th February 2016
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I'd be tempted to give these a try personally, in 25C http://road.cc/content/review/179366-lifeline-prim...

A decent review and a very good price, and in my experience the Wiggle own-brand stuff is excellent, I've used brake pads, tubes, tools and now some wheels too and it's all much better than the price suggests it would be.

Matt_N

9,035 posts

231 months

Friday 19th February 2016
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Mr Will said:
They are what I ride, but I hesitate to recommend them too widely. Absolutely lovely tyres, but quite fragile and quick wearing. The GP4000S is a better compromise for most people.
True to an extent but the pros outweight the cons for me and they're not as fragile as some would have you believe ime.

I'm switching to Pave CG for my commuter too whilst you can still get them.

bakerstreet

5,040 posts

194 months

Friday 19th February 2016
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GuinnessMK said:
Thanks guys. Will have a look for a deal on a paor of 4000's then.
Have a look at some of the european sites such as bikediscount.de They have droppped to as low as £25 per tyre and Wiggle and CRC generally don't get that low.

okgo

42,095 posts

227 months

Friday 19th February 2016
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Matt_N said:
True to an extent but the pros outweight the cons for me and they're not as fragile as some would have you believe ime.

I'm switching to Pave CG for my commuter too whilst you can still get them.
They're much more fragile IMO. They also (not tried very latest version) were dangerous in the wet.

Rolling resistance is comparable between the two anyway.