Unable to grease my Speedplay pedals fully
Unable to grease my Speedplay pedals fully
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tobinen

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10,382 posts

174 months

Sunday 21st February 2016
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I gone through the YouTube vids and found them straightforward to follow. It looks pretty simple TBH. Rather than spend £40 + £12 for the Speedplay gun and grease respectively, I found a thread somewhere where marine white grease and a small-nozzle generic grease gun is fine and meet the Speedplay specs.

The grease is not going in far enough to push the old grease out to the spindle side. In fact I am going red in the face in effort and not making any progress. So I am probably doing something wrong but I don't know what. I have removed the screw and small cap before putting the gun nozzle to the pedal. Grease is coming out of the nozzle.

This is the gun:



Has anyone else had this problem or can anyone point out my failings? Much obliged.

SixPotBelly

1,925 posts

249 months

Sunday 21st February 2016
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You're not alone, I've had the same lack of success copying those vids.

Juffled

189 posts

211 months

Sunday 21st February 2016
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I use a very basic cheap small 50p syringe with normal bike grease, unscrew the endcap, force the plunger down, old grease splurges out of the spindle, keep going until new greases splurges.

Does take a fair bit of force, but it's only a cheap small syringe so can't put that much pressure on it.

The gun your using is much more hi tech, does it have a big opening? The syringe I use mates up quite nicely with the end cap so you can push quite a bit in.

tobinen

Original Poster:

10,382 posts

174 months

Sunday 21st February 2016
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It's a small nozzle, I'd say 1 mm at a guess. I'll see if I can source a larger one. Bloody annoying

tobinen

Original Poster:

10,382 posts

174 months

Monday 22nd February 2016
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Chap at work turns out to have the Speedplay gun which he's happy to lend to me. I will soon find out where the issue lies, hopefully.

SixPotBelly

1,925 posts

249 months

Monday 22nd February 2016
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Excellent, do let us know how you get on. If it works with the gun then I'll be less reticent about shelling out for one myself smile

RGambo

883 posts

198 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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been using one of these for years to gease my speed plays

http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bike-maintenance/b...tongue outla-219144070564|crid:89798789164|nw:g|rnd:1185357353962802793|dvc:c|adp:1o2&gclid=CjwKEAiAo7C2BRDgqODGq5r38DsSJAAv7dTPLCbvN-NvLS-aBCwFLLuInEPgnF3b_LVpwxdzfs3AnRoCWT7w_wcB

yellowjack

18,415 posts

195 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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RGambo said:
been using one of these for years to gease my speed plays

http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bike-maintenance/b...tongue outla-219144070564|crid:89798789164|nw:g|rnd:1185357353962802793|dvc:c|adp:1o2&gclid=CjwKEAiAo7C2BRDgqODGq5r38DsSJAAv7dTPLCbvN-NvLS-aBCwFLLuInEPgnF3b_LVpwxdzfs3AnRoCWT7w_wcB
Lucky you! I bought one of those and couldn't get it to work at all. Worst bike tool I ever bought, I ended up applying the grease (admittedly to open bearing cups) by squeezing it straight from the tube and smearing it with my finger. Previously I'd used a disposable syringe without a needle, which worked better, but eventually the grease buggers up the seal in the syringe.

SixPotBelly

1,925 posts

249 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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RGambo said:
been using one of these for years to gease my speed plays

http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bike-maintenance/b...
Have tried one of those too. Didn't work for me either.

tobinen

Original Poster:

10,382 posts

174 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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Exactly the same outcome with the Speedplay gun frown

The nozzle is fractionally larger but really not much in it. I certainly don't think it's the reason why I can't put enough grease in or why it doesn't come out the designed end. The Speedplay gun is easier to use and lets you exert more pressure with the longer lever. I'll call the bloke who sold me the pedals (The Bike Whisperer) and see what he thinks.




SixPotBelly

1,925 posts

249 months

Wednesday 24th February 2016
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Thanks for the update. I half suspected there was something wrong with my method rather than my choice of gun, and that confirms that there might be. I'll standby for further news...

fromage

538 posts

232 months

Thursday 25th February 2016
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I did mine for the first time last night, very easy with a 5ml Syringe (£1 for 10) and didn't require much force at all.

jesusbuiltmycar

5,125 posts

283 months

Thursday 25th February 2016
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RGambo said:
been using one of these for years to gease my speed plays

http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bike-maintenance/b...tongue outla-219144070564|crid:89798789164|nw:g|rnd:1185357353962802793|dvc:c|adp:1o2&gclid=CjwKEAiAo7C2BRDgqODGq5r38DsSJAAv7dTPLCbvN-NvLS-aBCwFLLuInEPgnF3b_LVpwxdzfs3AnRoCWT7w_wcB
I've have no problem using one of those.

OP, Do you speedplays also have a plastic cap/grommit as well as the screw for the port? In the past I have carefully prised the plastic cap/grommit out to enable me to force more grease in.

tobinen

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10,382 posts

174 months

Thursday 25th February 2016
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Yes, tiny screw undone and then I remove the back bezel that the screw sits in the middle of. Then grease nozzle on to the visible bit showing.

All that happens is the grease comes back towards the gun and overflows.

RGambo

883 posts

198 months

Thursday 25th February 2016
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There could be your problem. you should just remove screw and insert the grease gun into that hole. Don't remove anything else.

see the speedplay video if you've not already. skip to 3min

http://www.speedplay.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=cg.v...



Edited by RGambo on Thursday 25th February 14:20

SixPotBelly

1,925 posts

249 months

Thursday 25th February 2016
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tobinen said:
Yes, tiny screw undone and then I remove the back bezel that the screw sits in the middle of. Then grease nozzle on to the visible bit showing.

All that happens is the grease comes back towards the gun and overflows.
same here

Rgambo - I'll see if that's what I'm doing wong too

tobinen

Original Poster:

10,382 posts

174 months

Friday 26th February 2016
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Aha! You are quite right. I will try tonight. Hopefully it's pilot error on my part.

tobinen

Original Poster:

10,382 posts

174 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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RGambo is quite correct and I was doing it incorrectly boxedin

I now have fully greased Speedplays using my Beta gun and white marine grease smile


SixPotBelly

1,925 posts

249 months

Tuesday 1st March 2016
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tobinen said:
RGambo is quite correct and I was doing it incorrectly boxedin

I now have fully greased Speedplays using my Beta gun and white marine grease smile
woohoo

I should be able to do the same then smile

Thank you for starting the thread, Tobinen, and for coming back with your results. And I'll add my thanks to yours to RGambo, for telling us what we were doing wrong. thumbup

RGambo

883 posts

198 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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Excellent . smile)