Dropper post help
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FurryExocet

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3,011 posts

210 months

Monday 8th August 2016
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I want to get a dropper post for the mountain bike, I've looked online at the calculations and it's got me all confused.
Has anyone got an easy way of figuring out what size i need? It's for a 16" frame on a Boardman full suspension.
I was going look at 2nd hand ones with internal routing
Don't want to buy the wrong one, which doesn't fit or give the wrong amount of drop

paulmon

2,209 posts

270 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Frames size is irrelevant. The seatpost diameter is the important one. Usually one of three 27.2, 30.9, 31.6. My Boardman HT had 31.6 but check the specs on the Halfords website. The length and amount of drop depends on how tall you are. Generally speaking the taller you are the more drop you need. As for internal routing. This is only any use if your frame has internal routing which I'm pretty certain the Boardman doesn't have.

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garylythgoe

831 posts

251 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Get your current seat post diameter.

Set your seatpost to the correct fully extended position for pedalling.

Measure the amount of seatpost which is exposed.

Minus some cm's for the collar on the seatpost.

Then you'll know whether you need a 125mm/150mm etc.

FurryExocet

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3,011 posts

210 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Cheers that makes more sense to me. The new Boardman has the internal routing down the tube, then it'll run up with the brake and gear cable

I shall get the tape measure out

snotrag

15,624 posts

240 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Paul - disagree, frame siz is entirely relevant in selecting the right post length & drop.

As above, The thing to do is set your current bike in your riding position and measure from top of seat tube/clamp, to the RAILSs.

Then use this to work out what drop you can fit.

For instance - on my 19" frame, I can only JUST fit the Reverb 125mm dropped in.

On the 17" frame I have enough room to fit the new 150mm Reverb.

Both of these give exactly the same saddle>cranks distance though.

For what is worth, the min clamp to saddle rail distance on a 125mm Reverb is 195mm. The KS posts come up slightly shorter for the same drop.


Finally, for a Reverb stealth, the distance needed below the post for the hose strain relief is larger than the non-stealth - this can interfere with inserting the post into the frame and routing the hose. I have had to remove the hydraulic dry-break connection on my reverb stealth and fit the standard shorter version to fit low enough into my frame.


If all this is off-putting, it shouldn't be - its worth it when you get it right. Just do your research and measurements.

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

226 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Snotrag is exactly right. This is the only way to measure for a dropper post.
From the rails to the top of the seat tube.

This measurement will be stated (or found out) for all droppers. Once you have your distance go look at the post you want in say 125mm drop and check if that distance is less than or equal to your measurement. Remember if it is less on the post itself you can always move the post up a bit to reach you full ride height. But if it is too long, you cant shorten the dropper from its fully extended height.

It sounds complicated, but once you have that measurement half your problems are over.
Is this for your Boardman? I got a KS eTen 125mm for mine, fits nicely. Remember when fitting though measure twice cut once!

paulmon

2,209 posts

270 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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snotrag said:
Paul - disagree, frame siz is entirely relevant in selecting the right post length & drop.
Fair point but you could argue someone with a 150mm dropper on a 16inch frame is riding the wrong size bike.

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

226 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Small or large frame which dropper you can use is dictated by the measurement from the rails of your properly adjusted seat height.
If you already own the bike you cant do much about frame size.

FurryExocet

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3,011 posts

210 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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The frame size is right for me 😃

These are the measurements I've taken today

Post on show to rails = 200mm
Total post length = 350mm
Collar = 15mm
Width = 31.6

So would you say a 100mm dropper or 125mm?


Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

227 months

Tuesday 9th August 2016
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Dropper posts are great but don't fall for the must have a huge drop that people seem to think necessary. I have 2 reverb stealths and they have been faultless, would recommend - they come with collars to limit drop. I say don't over do it with drop as I really think the big drop thing is 'just cause you can'. It doesn't mean it's good. Just look at seat height in the DH World Cup, no one rides with the saddle slammed.

FurryExocet

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3,011 posts

210 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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I'm thinking 100mm would do, as my seat doesn't drop all the way down into the frame at the moment
It was a lot easier doing the downhill sections with the saddle out of the way earlier

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

226 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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I would say the price you are paying for a dropper post you might as well not leave yourself short in the future.
My measurement was 185 I think, so a 125mm KS eTen would be fine for you.

With these feet

5,733 posts

244 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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Ive a 125 dropper in my medium stumpy, basically thats what its specced with.
In honesty I could have done with a 100 as Ive had to remove a little of the excess tube to get it to seat as far down as possible - the stumpy frame has a large curve just above the crank.
Ive managed to make it work for me, but due to the frame it would not slide home completely.


Also check see if you can have internal routed cables. Check if you have holes to push the cable through otherwise its external only.

Fantastic things to have, once you have one you wonder why you didnt get one earlier!

FurryExocet

Original Poster:

3,011 posts

210 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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With these feet said:
Ive a 125 dropper in my medium stumpy, basically thats what its specced with.
In honesty I could have done with a 100 as Ive had to remove a little of the excess tube to get it to seat as far down as possible - the stumpy frame has a large curve just above the crank.
Ive managed to make it work for me, but due to the frame it would not slide home completely.


Also check see if you can have internal routed cables. Check if you have holes to push the cable through otherwise its external only.

Fantastic things to have, once you have one you wonder why you didnt get one earlier!
Yeah there is a hole at the bottom of the frame for the cable.

I think I'll measure how much seat is on show when it's fully down and work out what I can have

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

226 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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The eTen will fully insert into the FS Pro seat tube. Mine is raised about 1cm from fully in.

daddy cool

4,106 posts

258 months

Wednesday 10th August 2016
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The_Jackal said:
I would say the price you are paying for a dropper post you might as well not leave yourself short in the future.
My measurement was 185 I think, so a 125mm KS eTen would be fine for you.
You have a Large (19") frame - non?
Got a pic of the dropper fitted, at raised and lowered positions?
I was going to get a reverb (just because its the only one ive heard people talk about) but am interested in alternatives.

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

226 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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Here you go. 125mm drop. 185mm from rails to top of seat tube.


joema

2,753 posts

208 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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DH bikes have a seat tube much more laid back so seat looks like its run higher.

Generally 125mm drop is fine for most

FurryExocet

Original Poster:

3,011 posts

210 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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The_Jackal said:
Here you go. 125mm drop. 185mm from rails to top of seat tube.

What's attached to the frame? I've got no bolt holes in mine to attach a bottle cage

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

226 months

Thursday 11th August 2016
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It's a bottle cage and pump. You should have holes and bolts for a bottle cage?
I can't believe they would remove them during production of the model.