Cycling = Appetite suppressant?

[Kermit power]

Morning all,

Normally, if I don't get breakfast, I'll be gnawing my fist off by about 10:00.

On Tuesday, I rode into work (15 miles) and discovered on getting here that I had an early meeting I'd forgotten about, so I didn't manage even think about eating until 12:30, at which point I was thinking that I was fairly peckish, but didn't mind waiting for a mate to finish a call and go to lunch at 13:00.

As I'm looking for strategies to offload a bit of my insulation layer, I thought I'd try it again yesterday. Again, no issues whatsoever waiting until lunchtime, and then ate no more during the rest of the day than I would've usually eaten on top of breakfast.

It's now 11:15, and I might struggle to get to lunch before 15:00 today, but at the moment, all is well! Is there any rationale behind this??

[budgie smuggler]

Dunno, I find completely the opposite . Usually I'm ravenous an hour or two after riding and would quite happily hoff down several bags of crisps if they were available.

[louiebaby]

I find I get hungry if I get bored.

I can quite easily skip breakfast at work if I'm rushed off my feet.

[popeyewhite]

Kermit power said:

Morning all,

Is there any rationale behind this??

Cardiovascular exercise results in the release of two hormones which suppress appetite, weight training one. It's likely that as your bike ride isn't very long this effect will wear off quickly.

[richardxjr]

Dunno but I also found riding fasted a bloody good way of shedding timber.

[Kermit power]

popeyewhite said:

Cardiovascular exercise results in the release of two hormones which suppress appetite, weight training one. It's likely that as your bike ride isn't very long this effect will wear off quickly.

Thanks.

As for wearing off quickly, it's taking at least 4 hours. Maybe I've finally discovered a benefit to the 81 sets of traffic lights on my way in!

[lufbramatt]

I think I must be doing it wrong, as whenever I get home after a ride I just end up stuffing my face for the rest of the day!

[tr7v8]

lufbramatt said:

I think I must be doing it wrong, as whenever I get home after a ride I just end up stuffing my face for the rest of the day!

Same with me, I seem to be eating more & it is in proportion to distance!

[Dannbodge]

Try to drink a pint of water when you get in.
It should help fool your stomach into thinking your full

Carrots are also good because they have a chemical in them that stops you feeling hungry (apparently)

[Vocal Minority]

Kermit power said:

Morning all,

Normally, if I don't get breakfast, I'll be gnawing my fist off by about 10:00.

On Tuesday, I rode into work (15 miles) and discovered on getting here that I had an early meeting I'd forgotten about, so I didn't manage even think about eating until 12:30, at which point I was thinking that I was fairly peckish, but didn't mind waiting for a mate to finish a call and go to lunch at 13:00.

As I'm looking for strategies to offload a bit of my insulation layer, I thought I'd try it again yesterday. Again, no issues whatsoever waiting until lunchtime, and then ate no more during the rest of the day than I would've usually eaten on top of breakfast.

It's now 11:15, and I might struggle to get to lunch before 15:00 today, but at the moment, all is well! Is there any rationale behind this??

I also have found this.

[Kermit power]

tr7v8 said:

lufbramatt said:

I think I must be doing it wrong, as whenever I get home after a ride I just end up stuffing my face for the rest of the day!

Same with me, I seem to be eating more & it is in proportion to distance!

Had you eaten before riding? If I have breakfast before riding in, then I'll be hungry again before lunchtime, and likewise, I'll eat plenty this evening after cycling back. It only seems to work riding in on an empty stomach at the start of the day.

[tr7v8]

Kermit power said:

tr7v8 said:

lufbramatt said:

I think I must be doing it wrong, as whenever I get home after a ride I just end up stuffing my face for the rest of the day!

Same with me, I seem to be eating more & it is in proportion to distance!

Had you eaten before riding? If I have breakfast before riding in, then I'll be hungry again before lunchtime, and likewise, I'll eat plenty this evening after cycling back. It only seems to work riding in on an empty stomach at the start of the day.

Doesn't seem to make any difference. Not tried the water trick when I return.

[AC43]

Kermit power said:

Morning all,

I'm looking for strategies to offload a bit of my insulation layer

My OH sent me to a personal trainer.

I go twice a week for 90 minutes for what amounts to borderline torture and in 5 weeks I've lost half a stone. But I've lost a lot a lot more fat that that the exercises add lean muscle which is dense.

It also involves avoiding bread, dairy, complex carbs and cutting down on booze.

I'll going to keep going till Christmas as see how far I get - should be a stone down in total by then.

Came to the conclusion that it's worth the expense to shift the lumber.

EDIT; now getting loads of new Strava PB's.

[Kermit power]

AC43 said:

Kermit power said:

Morning all,

I'm looking for strategies to offload a bit of my insulation layer

My OH sent me to a personal trainer.

I go twice a week for 90 minutes for what amounts to borderline torture and in 5 weeks I've lost half a stone. But I've lost a lot a lot more fat that that the exercises add lean muscle which is dense.

It also involves avoiding bread, dairy, complex carbs and cutting down on booze.

I'll going to keep going till Christmas as see how far I get - should be a stone down in total by then.

Came to the conclusion that it's worth the expense to shift the lumber.

EDIT; now getting loads of new Strava PB's.

My wife is a personal trainer!!

Unfortunately I utterly loathe gyms and don't understand how anyone can bear to spend any time in one, and my wife would be the first to say that PT sessions are frankly a waste of time and money if you're not going to take what you do in your paid for sessions and turn them into part of a sustainable lifestyle moving forward.

This is why I'm looking for changes I can make that will be sustainable, and having got over the notion of "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" which is, apparently, complete rubbish, this looks like a pretty easily sustainable one. I am, however, revisiting the notion of cycling being the appetite suppressant, as it's currently 11:30, I've still not eaten yet, and am still not fussed by it, as I've just been too busy with work (I've only just managed to get on here for the first time since 07:30 and it's a Friday for heaven's sake!!!), so that seems to be the secret!

[V8mate]

richardxjr said:

Dunno but I also found riding fasted a bloody good way of shedding timber.

Exercising before breakfast - whether cardio or weights based - is great for getting the fat-burn going.

[TwistingMyMelon]

No in regards to the title for me , got home yesterday and had 5 mince pies and 2 portions of dinner and am still losing weight!!

I've had breakfast after a ride to work and oddly i didnt feel hungry for once, I do agree exercising fasted has benefits, but not for me I Have toast, porridge and 3 espressos before I ride every morning

I only stay slim if I stay off booze and soon as I even moderately drink I see a few layers start creeping round my waist

[Roger Irrelevant]

V8mate said:

Exercising before breakfast - whether cardio or weights based - is great for getting the fat-burn going.

For many years now I've either ran or biked to work before eating anything, not because of any perceived weight loss benefit but because that way I get longer in bed. Despite eating a fair bit I've always had pretty low (i.e. <10%) body fat so I can well believe what you're saying here.

[il sole]

Kermit power said:

AC43 said:

Kermit power said:

Morning all,

I'm looking for strategies to offload a bit of my insulation layer

My OH sent me to a personal trainer.

I go twice a week for 90 minutes for what amounts to borderline torture and in 5 weeks I've lost half a stone. But I've lost a lot a lot more fat that that the exercises add lean muscle which is dense.

It also involves avoiding bread, dairy, complex carbs and cutting down on booze.

I'll going to keep going till Christmas as see how far I get - should be a stone down in total by then.

Came to the conclusion that it's worth the expense to shift the lumber.

EDIT; now getting loads of new Strava PB's.

My wife is a personal trainer!!

Unfortunately I utterly loathe gyms and don't understand how anyone can bear to spend any time in one, and my wife would be the first to say that PT sessions are frankly a waste of time and money if you're not going to take what you do in your paid for sessions and turn them into part of a sustainable lifestyle moving forward.

This is why I'm looking for changes I can make that will be sustainable, and having got over the notion of "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" which is, apparently, complete rubbish, this looks like a pretty easily sustainable one. I am, however, revisiting the notion of cycling being the appetite suppressant, as it's currently 11:30, I've still not eaten yet, and am still not fussed by it, as I've just been too busy with work (I've only just managed to get on here for the first time since 07:30 and it's a Friday for heaven's sake!!!), so that seems to be the secret!

OP - fasted training is THE WAY TO GO!!! i lost over 15Kg from the fast diet (ie dr michael mosley's diet programme from a couple of years back). the general non scientific way of looking at fasting is that it actually does the body good to avoid eating for a decent length of time. I feel so much brighter and more awake now from restricting my intake...I can now happily do 40 miles on an empty stomach at a decent pace. Obviously I'm not advocating avoiding eating when you're on a big effort, but certainly a bit of a HIIT workout for 20 mins, or a short commute whilst in a fasted state is really very good for you. I now don't eat breakfast (as in something early in the morning) at all during the week, maybe have an apple or banana around 11am, then maybe some veg, nuts or seeds around 1pm, then a good dinner before 7, giving my body at least 15 hours fasting...
it's hard to get used to, but is worth persevering with...

[NatAsp]

il sole said:

OP - fasted training is THE WAY TO GO!!! i lost over 15Kg from the fast diet (ie dr michael mosley's diet programme from a couple of years back). the general non scientific way of looking at fasting is that it actually does the body good to avoid eating for a decent length of time. I feel so much brighter and more awake now from restricting my intake...I can now happily do 40 miles on an empty stomach at a decent pace. Obviously I'm not advocating avoiding eating when you're on a big effort, but certainly a bit of a HIIT workout for 20 mins, or a short commute whilst in a fasted state is really very good for you. I now don't eat breakfast (as in something early in the morning) at all during the week, maybe have an apple or banana around 11am, then maybe some veg, nuts or seeds around 1pm, then a good dinner before 7, giving my body at least 15 hours fasting...
it's hard to get used to, but is worth persevering with...

I totally agree that this can be a great thing, but not necessarily for everyone. Like you I tend to fast for 16 hours a day, resulting in plenty of fasted training. The fact that I can train for a good couple of hours without food beforehand is due to my fat burning efficiency, which I attribute to..well.. training! Although there are tonnes of articles out there suggesting that fasted training in particular improves fat burning efficiency, the science behind this theory is sparse at best. I also lost significant weight after I started a couple years back, but this can be attributed to my increased training and decreased calorie consumption, rather than some sort of magic that happens when training on an empty stomach. Fasting works for me because it perfectly compliments my "all or nothing" personality, but we are all individual, unique human beings. My Mrs tried it and stuck with it for ages, but absolutely hated it as her body just couldn't adapt to get past the morning hunger in the same way that mine could.

[lufbramatt]

tr7v8 said:

Kermit power said:

tr7v8 said:

lufbramatt said:

I think I must be doing it wrong, as whenever I get home after a ride I just end up stuffing my face for the rest of the day!

Same with me, I seem to be eating more & it is in proportion to distance!

Had you eaten before riding? If I have breakfast before riding in, then I'll be hungry again before lunchtime, and likewise, I'll eat plenty this evening after cycling back. It only seems to work riding in on an empty stomach at the start of the day.

Doesn't seem to make any difference. Not tried the water trick when I return.

TBH one of the reasons I'll go and do 40 miles on a Saturday morning is so I can go up the pub and smash a mixed grill without feeling guilty :-) so drinking pints of water doesn't really compute ;-)