Tubs vs Clinches... Which is better?

[BeirutTaxi]

So which is best??!!

[snotrag]

Neither. Tubeless. Do people still run tubes!?

[Your Dad]

How long until:

Which is best - Ti, CrMo, Al, Carbon?

[gazza285]

BeirutTaxi said:

So which is best??!!

Depends what for.

[Paddy Taff]

Tubs are for racing, though their gains are marginal these days because of the quality of modern clinchers. Back in the day clinchers (Or wired ons before the yanks got in on the act) were heavy and lifeless with little grip.

[Devil2575]

snotrag said:

Neither. Tubeless. Do people still run tubes!?

Yes.

[anonymous-user]

Your Dad said:

How long until:

Which is best - Ti, CrMo, Al, Carbon?

You forgot bamboo, bamboo is what all the experienced riders eventually use. You'd know this if you were as good or experienced as me.

[gazza285]

Tubs are for cyclocross, far superior to the alternatives.

Except for the Three Peaks Cyclocross...

[JustinF]

Your Dad said:

How long until:

Which is best - Ti, CrMo, Al, Carbon?

the answer is wood, but I'm torn between Elm and Beech.

[JustinF]

Paddy Taff said:

Tubs are for racing, though their gains are marginal these days because of the quality of modern clinchers. Back in the day clinchers (Or wired ons before the yanks got in on the act) were heavy and lifeless with little grip.

Clincher wheels are also significantly heavier.
That aside, anyone who rides tubs and isn't racing is a bit of a twunt.

[gazza285]

JustinF said:

Paddy Taff said:

Tubs are for racing, though their gains are marginal these days because of the quality of modern clinchers. Back in the day clinchers (Or wired ons before the yanks got in on the act) were heavy and lifeless with little grip.

Clincher wheels are also significantly heavier.
That aside, anyone who rides tubs and isn't racing is a bit of a twunt.

Thanks. Two of my road bikes have tubs on, both are over thirty years old though.

[Matt_N]

JustinF said:

Clincher wheels are also significantly heavier.
That aside, anyone who rides tubs and isn't racing is a bit of a twunt.

Strange opinion.

Quite a few guys I ride with use tubulars, it's their preference and I can't see how it makes them a twunt.

[IroningMan]

Matt_N said:

JustinF said:

Clincher wheels are also significantly heavier.
That aside, anyone who rides tubs and isn't racing is a bit of a twunt.

Strange opinion.

Quite a few guys I ride with use tubulars, it's their preference and I can't see how it makes them a twunt.

I have one pair of tubular wheels - ten years ago, if you wanted deep-section rims then tubulars were about all that was on offer unless you were prepared to take out a second mortgage.

I don't get the love for tubeless.

[gazza285]

IroningMan said:

I don't get the love for tubeless.

They do make sense for mountain bikes, allowing for lower pressures to be used with less chance of punctures, and lighter as well.

[HardtopManual]

Road bike? Tubs for carbon, clincher for aluminium.

I just can't trust a (rim-braked) clincher on a carbon rim on a long descent.

[ALawson]

I have been running tubeless for a year now, apart from one noticeable puncture which sealed and a sidewall failure (sorted out with a tube) I have had no issues in 6k km. The sidewall failed tyre was replaced foc by the supplier.

You can run lower pressures and they simply ride better IMHO, previously used GP4ks for similar annual milage with only 2 punctures.

Obviously I have spotted some sealant on the seat tube but it seals so quickly you hardly notice.

[mcelliott]

Well I ride tubs through the summer - love them - on a Campag Chorus equipped bike, so I'm well screwed

[okgo]

HardtopManual said:

Road bike? Tubs for carbon, clincher for aluminium.

I just can't trust a (rim-braked) clincher on a carbon rim on a long descent.

Learn to ride properly and you'll be ok.

I like my tubs, but probably wouldn't bother if I had my time again, roads are just a bit aggressive to use nice tyres (which is most of the benefit) round me for racing, so end up using hard tubs which feel a bit average.

[HardtopManual]

okgo said:

Learn to ride properly and you'll be ok.

I like my tubs, but probably wouldn't bother if I had my time again, roads are just a bit aggressive to use nice tyres (which is most of the benefit) round me for racing, so end up using hard tubs which feel a bit average.

Thanks for the tip, I'll take my stabilisers off next time I'm doing an 11:30 descent of the Giau.

I'll take my Boras with tubs. I've seen a carbon clincher rim fail with my own eyes. Luckily, at a fairly low speed. I don't personally think the ease of changing tyres is worth the risk if you regularly ride in the mountains.

[Steve vRS]

Punctures? Or is sealant that good now?

Appreciate that they are useful for CX though.