Disc brake pads. Talk to me.
Disc brake pads. Talk to me.
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GarryDK

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5,670 posts

187 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Morning PH,

A bit of assistance, I am more used to rim brakes but my new commuters pads are coming to the end of their life and need some new ones. The discs are nothing special Shimano Alivio I believe but I want a decent sent of pads for the winter. Any suggestions would be great I really don't know what I am looking for here.

Cheers in Advance.

daddy cool

4,106 posts

258 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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The *shape* of the pads is non-negotiable - you'll need to look on CRC or Wiggle or Ribble and choose find the pads that fit your calipers.
However, in terms of compound, you'll likely see Resin or Metal (maybe Kevlar too). Metal lasts longer but is squealier, and you'd only really need this off road. You'll be fine with Resin, which bites quicker and squeals less (and shouldnt wear out particularly quick just with normal road use)

Superstar Components often do good deals on aftermarket pads done to OEM specs.

GarryDK

Original Poster:

5,670 posts

187 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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SO caliper wise, do all Shimano pads fit the same calipers?

Your Dad

2,279 posts

212 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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GarryDK said:
SO caliper wise, do all Shimano pads fit the same calipers?
No, different models use different pad shape - https://www.uberbikecomponents.com/category/337/Sh...

You need to establish exactly which model you have.

daddy cool

4,106 posts

258 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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GarryDK

Original Poster:

5,670 posts

187 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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According to wiggle i need these?

https://www.evanscycles.com/hayes-hmx-2-disc-brake...

Searching on Google I cant find Shimano Alivio with 160mm rotors.

snotrag

15,624 posts

240 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Uberbike.

Full range, various compounds, good prices. All the info is on the site to enable you to choose the right type.

daddy cool

4,106 posts

258 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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GarryDK said:
According to wiggle i need these?

https://www.evanscycles.com/hayes-hmx-2-disc-brake...

Searching on Google I cant find Shimano Alivio with 160mm rotors.
Do your pads look like those though? If so - then job done!

Doesnt really matter what size the rotor is - same pads can work on different size discs.

GarryDK

Original Poster:

5,670 posts

187 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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daddy cool said:
Do your pads look like those though? If so - then job done!

Doesnt really matter what size the rotor is - same pads can work on different size discs.
Honestly, no clue, Ill get the bike up on the stand this weekend and have a check over them.

lufbramatt

5,665 posts

163 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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Don't forget to clean your discs so the new pads bed in properly otherwise they will be squealy and lack bite. Especially if you're changing pad type.

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/how-to-bed-i...

It just says to clean them on there but I always de-glaze them with a bit of scotchbrite too. I've always preferred sintered pads tbh

donfisher

793 posts

195 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2016
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snotrag said:
Uberbike.
Agreed. I used their sintered pads for ages. No problems with performance and longevity but the front set were embarrassingly noisy. I also always seemed to have rubbing problems when they were in the last 1/3 of their life.

Swapped to semi metallic earlier this year. They’re lasting well and stop the bike better, recent wet spell included, and are silent apart from the first time they get used in the wet. No rubbing as yet (or maybe they are and I just can’t hear it).

uncinqsix

3,239 posts

239 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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I use Discobrakes Semi-Metallics on my commuter. They're cheap, stop well and last better than anything else I've tried. Bit of a squeal when I first apply the brakes in the wet, but otherwise quiet.

I tried a set of Superstar Sintered once, but they just would not stop squealing in the dry, no matter what I did. Better in the wet though. The only ones I tried that were silent in both wet and dry were Discobrakes Kevlar, but they didn't last nearly as well as the semi-metallics.

(I have a steep downhill on the way in and do it in all weather, so my commute is hard on brakes...)

neenaw

1,225 posts

218 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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I've always stuck with genuine Shimano pads and never had any issues. When I used to run Hope brakes I also stuck with genuine Hope pads on them and again, no issues.

The only issues I've had with pads was with Superstar pads being a bit crap!

yellowjack

18,409 posts

195 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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Sintered pads will last and last and last. Resin pads, on the other hand? They're great for stopping the bike but can wear far more quickly. I ate through a set of resin pads in two months earlier this year - March to April they lasted. In their defence, though, I did use them hard off road, and even on a beach race in March in South Wales.

Have a care to check the disc rotors though. Mine actually say "for resin pads only" on them. Hasn't stopped me from using sintered pads for the last 7 months, but don't expect the discs to last as long, or to get any warranty support if you ignore the pad type instructions.

If you REALLY want to get like-for-like replacements, whip the old pads out and check the back for a number. Genuine Shimano pads usually have a model number on the back so you can be sure to order the right replacements. I usually leave it til last minute to replace pads, which means a trip to my LBS. There, they fetch "The Box" from the workshop. It's opened with reverence and a sense of ceremony, and the old pad is compared to the multi-coloured selection of aftermarket pads within the box until the correct replacement is found. If I had any sense I'd order the Shimano pads off Wiggle or something, and for a fiver less. But what's a fiver when your local shop won't be there to provide workshop support when you need it if it's gone under because it can't compete on component prices?

Craikeybaby

12,065 posts

254 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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As above, I take the pads out and take them to my LBS and ask for a set "to replace these".

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

235 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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Superstar are good for sintered and organics. I'd avoid their Kevlar ones as I had two sets disintegrate.

Uberbike stuff is good and I use their pads on my Saint and Guide brakes.

For commuting use you are probably fine with Organics - but I've gone through a set in one day doing uplift DH riding in the winter.