Winter riding - help needed
Winter riding - help needed
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T1berious

Original Poster:

2,667 posts

184 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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I'm hoping some of you can offer some advice

I've signed up for a Sportif in late April and have been putting on some miles. Unfortunately the cold snap we're now in has made me want to hibernate.

Last weekend it dropped to minus 2 and on a 3 hour ride my feet and hands were absolutely frozen.

I'd got a pair of Castelli overshoes in the hopes that they would be warmer than my old ones, even with ski socks my feet had lost feeling and I was on the grumpy side of this is too effin cold.



Any recommendations for gloves? My old Endura MTB gloves fell short of providing the warmth needed for a long ride (>2.5 hours).

Where am I going wrong? Has anyone got some tips worth trying?

Looking at a 3.5 hour stint this weekend so any tips gratefully received!

Cheers T1b





Edited by T1berious on Thursday 26th January 09:04

mikecassie

673 posts

188 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Northwave boots for your feet, I use them, or there are other brands of winter boots available.
I use DHB gloves and they keep my hands warm enough when I do venture out.

SoliD

1,507 posts

246 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Northwave Boots, used them for the past 2 years as a sufferer of Raynauds and they make the winter copeable, I will never be in the comfortable position, but I wear overshoes occasionally on the CX bike and feet are in agony! Boots never get this bad.

BoRED S2upid

21,035 posts

269 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Cycle harder but for less time? Still improving your fitness but not freezing your toes off.

ukbabz

1,647 posts

155 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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I've found wrapping my feet in cling film then a decent pair of socks seems to take the worst from my toes on my Thursday night MTB rides. Been down to -5 for 2hours ish and whilst not warm, it hasn't been as painful on toes.

Pachydermus

1,157 posts

141 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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The only thing I found that kept my feet warm when riding for over an hour were electric innersoles. Being somewhat older now and with no specific training goal I just don't bother riding for more than an hour in winter.

Your Dad

2,279 posts

212 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Northwave boots and Aldi lobster mitts for me on the club run last Sunday, Garmin was reading -2.7c for a while, Strava shows average temp as 0c for 3.5 hours. #toasty

numtumfutunch

5,172 posts

167 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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-4 here for my ride last Sunday smile

I use endura neoprene overshoes like yours with hiking socks but crucially don't have my (normal) shoes too tight so the blood flows freely

Hands protected with a cheap pair of merino gloves underneath whatever winter gloves I have at the time when it's really cold

The first half hour can be challenging but after I'm up to working temp I'm OK for the rest of the ride

Good luck

T1berious

Original Poster:

2,667 posts

184 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Thanks guys,

I've invested in some merino wool socks, new gloves and some liners. Hopefully that will see me through the worst of it while weather is way beyond "a bit parky"

I'm guessing this isn't helped by trying to keep my HR low to ensure I don't end the ride on empty.

Cheers again,

T1b

lukefreeman

1,502 posts

204 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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I we out the DHB range.

Roubaix liner gloves and deep winter gloves (Neoprene if it's absolutely chucking it down)

Thin merino socks and a thick two layer pair with either velotoze over shoes or DHB deep winter overshoes.

Fine for -3 in the Peaks.

Chicken Chaser

9,051 posts

253 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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I'm usually ok in fingerless with a pair of woolies over the top however, I do have a pair of Endura waterproofs which usually keep me toasty.

To be honest, this winter i've wussed out a fair bit and if its less than 5 degrees, i've been on the Turbo. I'm finding Zwift is more than enough to keep my attention for the required time.

georgefreeman918

743 posts

128 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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I cant recommend Castelli Neoprene gloves enough!

They dont feel particulary thick and they are a bit slow to warm up, but once you are up to temperature and sweating they keep your hands hot! Zero breathability which is kind of what you want.

I also have castelli merino wool socks, and castelli overshoes and I have never had a problem with cold feet.


Celtic Dragon

3,350 posts

264 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Fellow Raynauds sufferer here too. For my feet, I wear 2 pairs of socks, 1 thermal next to my skin and 1 sport (fluffy lined) over the top of them, then shoes and my over shoes. That will allow me to go for 2.5 hours as long as they don't get wet.

Gloves are easier, I use Fox Antifreeze, expensive yes, but warm. Basically they are divers gloves (neoprene) with a liner. 5mm neoprene gloves can be had for not much, but you will loose dexterity/

bakerstreet

5,039 posts

194 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Those Castelli overshoes will over next to bugger all thermal protection.

Maybe try something like the BBB Waterflex overshoes. Fleece lined and IMO much better than the Castelli overshoes.

Decent pair of socks. I use my wife's old ski socks.

sock and then carrier bag, then bib tights, then overshoes.

All the above are quite cheap and will make it a bit more bearable.

The best solution is Northwave boots. They are expensive, but worth every penny if you really want to go out in all weathers.

I've had mixed success with gloves. Currently using DHB Amberly (I think) gloves. They seem to work.

Worth clarifying, that I cycle five days a week to work, so I am well versed in what works and what doesn't.

Don't know if you are using one all ready, but I find a skull cap or ear warmer does wanders for keeping me warm smile

Kell

1,708 posts

237 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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I've got Shimano MW80s and they seem t owork for me on the commute where I might be out for up to an hour, but I've never gone beyond that when it's cold.

My previous pair of Shimano winters lasted 10 years (and I only really changed them as I wanted something new, not because there was anything wrong with them), and I've had these ones about 5 years. They get used five days a week from about November to March so they seem to last well.

At around £100 they're not cheap, but they're slightly cheaper than the NW boots. However, everytime one of these threads comes up, the Northwave boots seem to get the nod over and above any other winter boot. So I guess do it once and do it properly.

As for gloves, I've still not found 'my' ideal pair.

The best option I've go tat the minute are actually the Altura Night Vision ones. These have a thinner liner and then water/windproof outers which are padded. It's rarely been needed (for me) to wear both inner and outer.


greenamex2

509 posts

284 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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I have a defective heart so my extremities tend to suffer (for example, I have had frost bite in this country, down south).

I wear Shimano MW7 boots with merino socks, and an extra layer of socks if below zero
For my hands, top of the range BMW winter motorcycle gloves - They may look silly but they work!

LordHaveMurci

12,336 posts

198 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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My feet suffer really badly, even with my old (ancient!) Shimano overshoes. Following advice on here I bought some Wooly booly merino socks, not expecting much but they really do help, a lot!

Bought some Castelli gloves that have been warm enough but I've not been brave (daft?) enough to ride in sub zero temps for a fair few years now!

TriPaul

13 posts

153 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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I have northwave winter boots which I bought half a size bigger so I can also get thicker socks on. For my hands I have neoprene gloves and agree with previous posts about them being slow to warm up but then great. They are an issue if you stop for a coffee half way as the sweat in them cools down.

The other option for feet is buying really big socks, cut holes in the bottom for the cleats and then put them over you shoes followed by waterproof overshoes. The more pockets of warm air you can trap the better.

IREvans

1,126 posts

151 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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T1berious said:
I'm hoping some of you can offer some advice

I've signed up for a Sportif in late April and have been putting on some miles. Unfortunately the cold snap we're now in has made me want to hibernate.

Last weekend it dropped to minus 2 and on a 3 hour ride my feet and hands were absolutely frozen.

I'd got a pair of Castelli overshoes in the hopes that they would be warmer than my old ones, even with ski socks my feet had lost feeling and I was on the grumpy side of this is too effin cold.



Any recommendations for gloves? My old Endura MTB gloves fell short of providing the warmth needed for a long ride (>2.5 hours).

Where am I going wrong? Has anyone got some tips worth trying?

Looking at a 3.5 hour stint this weekend so any tips gratefully received!

Cheers T1b

Hi, I have Specialized Defroster winter boots with Assos winter socks, then Planet-X 'claw' winter gloves, a neck tube, and decent hat. I can survive 3 hour night rides at up to -6C, and still stay warm. If I begin to feel the onset of cold, I just push on to get the heart rate up, and all is good. Makes you appreciate summer conditions though..!

As someone else commented, shorter rides at higher intensity helps you stay warm, for the same training benefit...

Have fun





Edited by T1berious on Thursday 26th January 09:04

battered

4,088 posts

176 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Thin thermal inners under neoprene gloves from Decathlon are good for cycling and for winter mountaineering at -10 and worse, even when wet. Cheap too.