New Groupset fitting cost?

[pattyg]

My bike is laid up with gear issues and worn chainrings. I need to get a full diagnosis at LBS but it has done approx. 4k miles.

I thinking that I may just treat it to a new Shimano 105 11 speed groupset at around £320 instead of fixing an already tired Tiagra 9 speed setup.

I don't really need new shifters, brakes etc but guess I could get something back for these to compensate cost of new stuff.

Any ideas on what a shop would charge to fit a Groupset? Anyone got a deal for fitting against used parts?

Thanks

[bakerstreet]

pattyg said:

My bike is laid up with gear issues and worn chainrings. I need to get a full diagnosis at LBS but it has done approx. 4k miles.

I thinking that I may just treat it to a new Shimano 105 11 speed groupset at around £320 instead of fixing an already tired Tiagra 9 speed setup.

I don't really need new shifters, brakes etc but guess I could get something back for these to compensate cost of new stuff.

Any ideas on what a shop would charge to fit a Groupset? Anyone got a deal for fitting against used parts?

Thanks

Will be a full service, so anything from £60 to £90 at guess.

[neenaw]

You might need to factor in the cost of new wheels as well as an 11 speed cassette won't fit a 9 speed freehub.

[moonigan]

neenaw said:

You might need to factor in the cost of new wheels as well as an 11 speed cassette won't fit a 9 speed freehub.

This and whatever else comes creeping out of the woodwork. You can get a 2016 Giant Defy aluminium with 105 for just over £600. By the time you've factored in all the costs you wont be a million miles away.

[hornetrider]

Don't you just love scope creep with bikes.

Chainrings a bit worn, shifting a bit ropey... NEWWWW BIIIIKE!!

[Razor O Rourke]

pattyg said:

My bike is laid up with gear issues and worn chainrings. I need to get a full diagnosis at LBS but it has done approx. 4k miles.

Worn chain rings in 4000 miles? What have you been doing, changing gear with a hammer?

If an LBS told you that it seems to be one of their stock replies when the gear train is playing up, often with rings that are as good as new. You need to post a picture and also describe exactly what the "Issues" are with your gears. Unless they have been neglected or something has worn prematurely the only thing you should need are a chain and cassette.

[Dannbodge]

My LBS charges £120 for a new groupset. It's the same cost as their full service package.

Luckily when I had mine upgraded to 105 because I was messed around and parts didn't come in for months, they forgot to charge me for the fitting.

[Kawasicki]

My road bikes both have more than 4k miles on them, and the chainrings on both look fine.

How have you worn yours out?

[yellowjack]

Kawasicki said:

My road bikes both have more than 4k miles on them, and the chainrings on both look fine.

How have you worn yours out?

My old steel road bike, with a 'no-brand' chainset that cannot have the rings swapped as they are riveted on, has got at least 20,000 miles under it. Four years of commuting and longer rides locally, two years in North Yorkshire, and three in Essex were it's main periods of heavy use, but it's been used in all weathers for all but 6 of the last 20 years. Still on the original chainset too. Even my latest MTB has had nearly 3,000 miles on it in the sandy heathlands hereabouts, all weathers, all year. It's had several new chains, three new cassettes but no need to even look closely at the chainrings yet, despite the grinding paste it regularly ploughs through.

If they really are worn, then yes, replace them. If you just want an excuse to upgrade to a shiny new "better" groupset, then yes, replace the lot. But I seriously doubt that you would actually NEED new chainrings just yet. Gear issues? Look to cables first. Proper alignment of the mech hanger, correct adjustment of limit screws, and accurate cable tension should have it indexing just fine. New bits? I suspect you probably need a new cassette and chain. Hard to diagnose without seeing it, but you should go through several cassette and chain swaps before you get anywhere near needing new chainrings.

Edited by yellowjack on Tuesday 28th February 16:32

[TwistingMyMelon]

easy to tell if they are worn , or if you aren't sure post pic on here

I wore an outer Tiagra one down in 3000 miles , that was on my winter bike though so 3000 hard miles. Plus I only ever rode on the big ring and cross chained a bit, it looked like a nija weapon it was so worn!

[lufbramatt]

Watch a few youtube videos and DIY it? Bikes aren't rocket science, you pretty much only need a couple of allen keys.

[petsco]

if you're a shortish person, you can get one of these very cheap at the moment.


Absolute bargain at £750. Now it's £550, bite their hands off.

If you're not XS size, there's a few larger ones available in various stores.

[Mark83]

My LBS said they'd fit free of charge if buying through them.

[Hell27]

My LBS charged £80.00 for fitting a new ultegra groupset

[numtumfutunch]

Mark83 said:

My LBS said they'd fit free of charge if buying through them.

This!

Id expect to pay more for parts at the LBS than online but I would also have an expectation that some goodwill would be available for fitting too especially if buying a whole groupset

If not then screw them and go to CRC - it isnt difficult, the only specialist tool Id recommend is a Park Tools cable cutter.
Youtube is your friend

[Kermit power]

The absolute joy of doing it yourself and riding a perfectly smooth and silent bike that you've mostly built yourself for the first time will massively outweigh all of the frustrations you experience in learning to do the job.

My wife told me that all the frustrations and pains of pregnancy and childbirth just vanish the second the mother holds her baby for the first time. I told her this was just the same. She wasn't impressed!

[pattyg]

Just back from bike shop. Chain worn, sharktoothed outer ring and inner ring which is currently ok but worn, and new cassette - £140 in parts. Thing is it's a 9 speed so the parts will take a bit of time from Madison as they are now old hat.

I guess as a 16st rider maybe I wear components out quicker than some.

So... feck it, gone for the full new 11 speed 105 Groupset. £80 to fit which will be offset against selling my OK shifters and brake calipers. My wheels are fine as they are 11 speed compatible Ultegras with spacer for 9 speed.

At least it'll give me motivation to get back out on the bike in spring.

Edited by pattyg on Saturday 11th March 14:29

Edited by pattyg on Saturday 11th March 14:32

[Barchettaman]

Seems a reasonable deal.

Your weight will have no bearing on how fast your chainrings wear out. How you clean and lube them will.

Your weight may influence how your rims hold up over time, and how fast your tyres wear.

[rs4al]

Cost me £150 to get a LBS to fit Di2 and new chainrings, they also gave it a good clean down, which was excellent service as well.

[ALawson]

pattyg said:

Just back from bike shop. Chain worn, sharktoothed outer ring and inner ring which is currently ok but worn, and new cassette - £140 in parts. Thing is it's a 9 speed so the parts will take a bit of time from Madison as they are now old hat.

I guess as a 16st rider maybe I wear components out quicker than some.

So... feck it, gone for the full new 11 speed 105 Groupset. £80 to fit which will be offset against selling my OK shifters and brake calipers. My wheels are fine as they are 11 speed compatible Ultegras with spacer for 9 speed.

At least it'll give me motivation to get back out on the bike in spring.

Edited by pattyg on Saturday 11th March 14:29

Edited by pattyg on Saturday 11th March 14:32

I expect 11sp 105 will be a revelation over what you used to. Plenty of £2k bikes running it which shows you how good a groupset it is!