Carbon vs aluminium Canyon

[AAD44H]

Thinking about buying my first road bike and have narrowed it down to these two. What are the pros/cons of each as they both weigh the same however the carbon is £300 more.

https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/road/endurace/endurac...

https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/road/endurace/endurac...

Thanks

[Your Dad]

Apparently the carbon model is quite heavy and difficult to get moving.

[neil-935ql]

Personally I would go carbon without the disk brakes . Should weigh less without those brakes , also plenty of other makes worth considering .

[outnumbered]

Your Dad said:

Apparently the carbon model is quite heavy and difficult to get moving.

[Miocene]

Weight seems to be the same at 8.5kg, so basically if you want a CF frame and lesser spec kit or alu frame and higher spec kit.

Depends what you'll use it for. Will it be every day, or something you can upgrade in the future?

[AAD44H]

Miocene said:

Weight seems to be the same at 8.5kg, so basically if you want a CF frame and lesser spec kit or alu frame and higher spec kit.

Depends what you'll use it for. Will it be every day, or something you can upgrade in the future?

It won't be used everyday, it will be a toy more than anything than can be upgraded when I need it to be. Any other suggestions other than the canyon bikes?

[wobert]

I'll just leave this here.....



I toyed with the 8.0, then decided as I was in at £1800, I may as well stretch to the 9.0, which is a kilo lighter again and £400 more...

Best decision I made and now I don't rue not splashing the extra cash....

As for the hydraulic brakes, no way would I spec a new bike with rim brakes, the braking is an order of magnitude better than rim brakes...

[asd2001]

You'll never regret spending on the frame the rest can be upgraded as it wears out.

[astroarcadia]

My Canyon stable.

Carbon CF SLX and Alu GC SLX. Both great bikes, I'd go carbon on the road bike.

[Kawasicki]

I like aluminium. If I was spending big I would probably get carbon, but at the lower to mid range I trust aluminium more.

Rim brakes on a road bike for me too...I rode for an hour this evening and maybe used the brakes for 8 seconds in total. The other 59 minutes and 52 secs my rim brakes had less drag and weight than discs. Depends where and how you ride, for some discs might be a better choice.

I can also recommend Rose bikes, I've been riding a Rose Xeon RS for a couple of years. It is light, stiff, precise handling, comfortable and durable...

[Gren]

Then again... I moved from an aluminium rim braked Defy to a carbon disc braked Endurace and the Endurace is faster everywhere - on the flat, climbing, descending.

Then again it cost more than 3 times as much so it darned well should. The wheels were significantly lighter despite the braking method. The whole bike comes in at just over 7 kilos so I don't think its holding me back much.

Carbon tends to be lighter but dearer. Disc brakes tend to be better but heavier (and dearer). It's up to you to work out which is the best 'deal' for you.

[okgo]

For sure the carbon one.

105/ultegra is going to be basically the same.

[SVS]

okgo said:

105/ultegra is going to be basically the same.

Is that true? (Genuine question, as I've not used either.)

[okgo]

Save for a bit of weight I doubt the differences are really all that noticeable, 105 has benefitted from all the same trickle down tech. And as said by someone above, upgrading groupset items as they wear out is far more palatable than buying a new frame.

[Kawasicki]

The difference between 105 and Ultegra - about 300g

The difference between aluminium and carbon frames - about 200g

Go ultegra and aluminium for weight saving value.

[okgo]

Weight means almost nothing at this level.

If you're worried about 200g, leave your iphone at home.

[wobert]

Gren said:

Then again... I moved from an aluminium rim braked Defy to a carbon disc braked Endurace and the Endurace is faster everywhere - on the flat, climbing, descending.

Then again it cost more than 3 times as much so it darned well should. The wheels were significantly lighter despite the braking method. The whole bike comes in at just over 7 kilos so I don't think its holding me back much.

Carbon tends to be lighter but dearer. Disc brakes tend to be better but heavier (and dearer). It's up to you to work out which is the best 'deal' for you.

I woul concur, regarding up hill, down hill and on the flat performance.....

Plus it's super comfy, 70 miles yesterday with no aches or pains.....a bit like riding my sofa!

[Gren]

Here's my beauty. Faster cos it's red.

[W00DY]

I'd go for the aluminium one with the nicer wheels (tubeless compatible) and the levers on the hydro Ultegra are a more comfortable shape than the 105-ish ones. Also red is faster.

And you get £300 in your pocket.

[IREvans]

wobert said:

I'll just leave this here.....



I toyed with the 8.0, then decided as I was in at £1800, I may as well stretch to the 9.0, which is a kilo lighter again and £400 more...

Best decision I made and now I don't rue not splashing the extra cash....

As for the hydraulic brakes, no way would I spec a new bike with rim brakes, the braking is an order of magnitude better than rim brakes...

Looks fantastic. I'm in the same boat re disc brakes. I've had a Dogma F8 with hydraulic disc brakes for over a year - the braking performance, in any weather condition, is an order of magnitude better than rim brakes - I'll never go back.