Will this cassette change work?
Will this cassette change work?
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mondeoman

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11,430 posts

295 months

Sunday 16th July 2017
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Currently running 11/28 cassette, with 50/34 chainring, and shimano 2300 rear derailleur.

Having got an entry in prudential 100, and fearing leith and box hills 7% gradients, I'm pondering on changing to a 12/32 cassette, but not sure if it fit or if I need to change the derailleur as well.


smifffymoto

5,186 posts

234 months

Sunday 16th July 2017
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Med cage mech or a road link.

g7jhp

7,033 posts

267 months

Sunday 16th July 2017
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Have you looked at a 12-30t Cassette? Perfect for the hilly sportives (and yes get a medium cage).

z4RRSchris

12,515 posts

208 months

Sunday 16th July 2017
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you will be fine on a 34/28


Some Gump

13,018 posts

215 months

Sunday 16th July 2017
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Don't fear box, it's quite a nice one. Lieth is harder, but you should be able to grind out 28-34 quite easily - it's relatively short.

yellowjack

18,408 posts

195 months

Sunday 16th July 2017
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I'd suggest you'll be OK on 34 x 28 too. I've done Leith and Box on 39 x 25 (not very nice on my knees) and on a 34 x 25 (not too bad all told), but I'm now on a 34 x 28 and whilst it doesn't make things "easy" it's well suited to those climbs. The only caveat though, is that I'm never going to be accused of "flying up" any hills. I'm a "seated spinner" rather than a natural climber.

If you want to go up (down?) to a 32 tooth gear then I'm pretty sure you'll need a longer derailleur cage.

mondeoman

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11,430 posts

295 months

Sunday 16th July 2017
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Local hill to me is 6% apparently, and only about 200yds, but that kills on 34/28, hence the question.

Seated spinning, can't do the stand-up any more.

rs4al

954 posts

194 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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mondeoman said:
Local hill to me is 6% apparently, and only about 200yds, but that kills on 34/28, hence the question.

Seated spinning, can't do the stand-up any more.
Have you not done any training for the 100 miles ?

If a hill of 200yds@6% hurts you going to have a 'fun' ride !

uncinqsix

3,239 posts

239 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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z4RRSchris said:
you will be fine on a 34/28
I can't think of much that would be too much for 34/28

I have 36/26 as my lowest, and that's fine on shorter 10+% and longer 7% ones. I'd like a 34/28 to make the 12-15% bits slightly easier though

z4RRSchris

12,515 posts

208 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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rs4al said:
mondeoman said:
Local hill to me is 6% apparently, and only about 200yds, but that kills on 34/28, hence the question.

Seated spinning, can't do the stand-up any more.
Have you not done any training for the 100 miles ?

If a hill of 200yds@6% hurts you going to have a 'fun' ride !
quite.

Your Dad

2,278 posts

212 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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I'm no mountain goat but manage this on 34x28, might have even done it once with a cog to spare.


Zigster

1,993 posts

173 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Likewise, I'm no mountain goat but can comfortably manage this on 34/28.

Cob Lane

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You'll be fine on the hills you mention. The 100 miles is more likely to be a problem than a few short hills.

darth_pies

705 posts

246 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Leith Hill is the biggest challenge on RL100 because its a bit steeper in places than 'untrained' cyclists are used to, narrow, crappy road surface and if you get into traffic the whole thing grinds to a halt as people unclip and walk up. Box Hill is much easier.

That said, its mostly short steep sections which flatten off to give you a bit of a rest so its not a full-on grind all the way up.
i am absolutely terrible at climbing because i'm big and heavy and have large sprinter's legs....i'm knackered after a 1min effort....but I can get up Leith Hill.

Pacing is key, just take it steady and smooth and try to find a wheel to follow that's going at your speed.

For 99.99% of people 34-28 gear will be enough unless you really haven't done any training at all in preparation. I really wouldn't bother with the faff of changing derailleur for a 11-32 cassette....instead get out and do some similar hills this week to build some confidence!

Also note that pretty much everyone goes quicker and harder on the day than they expect because of the adrenaline and thrill. Good luck!

Some Gump

13,018 posts

215 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Zigster said:
Likewise, I'm no mountain goat but can comfortably manage this on 34/28.

Cob Lane

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You'll be fine on the hills you mention. The 100 miles is more likely to be a problem than a few short hills.
Liar. Bet you have hooves and everything!

john7

269 posts

245 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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A 30 cassette will fit but you will need to adjust the distance between your cassette and jockey wheel. I know cause I've done it and it does help climbing!

mondeoman

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11,430 posts

295 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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rs4al said:
mondeoman said:
Local hill to me is 6% apparently, and only about 200yds, but that kills on 34/28, hence the question.

Seated spinning, can't do the stand-up any more.
Have you not done any training for the 100 miles ?

If a hill of 200yds@6% hurts you going to have a 'fun' ride !
Done a few 45 milers, plus regular gym stuff, I'll get through,one way or another. Checked on velocity viewer, local hill peaks at 8%, after a 2k approach at 3%.

rs4al

954 posts

194 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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mondeoman said:
Done a few 45 milers, plus regular gym stuff, I'll get through,one way or another. Checked on velocity viewer, local hill peaks at 8%, after a 2k approach at 3%.
Remember to pace yourself on the hills, just spin up in your lowest gear and not grind up, think Chris froome style. Also remember to feed and drink, drink and eat twice what you did on your 45 miles.

If I was you I would go out and ride your local hill four times in a row this week at least twice, it will really help. Good luck !

g7jhp

7,033 posts

267 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Drink plenty of electrolytes to ward off cramp and eat to give yourself energy.

Then as others say take it at your own pace.

Hare and tortoise, amazing how people whizz past coming up to a hill only to get cramp half way up (and have to walk) as you ease past at a snails pace.

Good luck.

HardtopManual

2,901 posts

195 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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You'll be fine on 34x28. Even if you end up grinding the steeper bits of Leith out at 60rpm, that's only 5.5mph. Any slower and you'd be better off walking.

One tip - don't get carried away early on if you're in a group and go into the red.

HardtopManual

2,901 posts

195 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Oh and be VERY wary if you are riding in a group at speed - I've seen some awful riding on Ride London and quite a few nasty crashes.