Are mountain bikes the new GT3?
Are mountain bikes the new GT3?
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oddman

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4,233 posts

281 months

Wednesday 20th January 2021
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Looking for new bike. Seems that the 2021 stock of some high end brands (Yeti, Santa Cruz)is already sold. I managed to order the bike I wanted but one of (if not) the last Stif had in stock. Such a backlog for building I'll be picking mine up end of next month.

oddman

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4,233 posts

281 months

Wednesday 20th January 2021
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anonymous said:
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Cheers - saw that.

Fortunately what I wanted was in stock. The model, finishing kit and size I wanted. A complete coincidence - now just a long wait for it to be built.

davidc1

1,644 posts

191 months

Wednesday 20th January 2021
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Biking will be the future way to get your adrenaline kick if/when fast cars are regulated off the road.

Simes205

5,017 posts

257 months

Wednesday 20th January 2021
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I managed to get a carbon Santa Cruz frame from Stiff last October. I was after an Chameleon alloy version but took the carbon. I built it up from scratch with new parts.
A fully built version would have taken 3 months to arrive.

Roaringopenfire

199 posts

130 months

Wednesday 20th January 2021
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Even mid-tier in short supply. I ordered a Specialized in colour of my choice in November. Delivery is May/June.

ian in lancs

3,851 posts

227 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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davidc1 said:
Biking will be the future way to get your adrenaline kick if/when fast cars are regulated off the road.
I think you're right!

PaulD86

1,840 posts

155 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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ian in lancs said:
davidc1 said:
Biking will be the future way to get your adrenaline kick if/when fast cars are regulated off the road.
I think you're right!
Only problem is that biking will be more expensive - Looking at the latest version of the bike I ride, it looks like it has gone up in price 15% every year since I bought mine. If that continues the 2030 version will be £23,000. Bike prices have gone beyond ridiculous.

emicen

9,226 posts

247 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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Very interesting subject this one.

I saw a Facebook marketplace post the other day, for a Specialized Levo SL Comp in carbon fibre. "Brand new, still in box" and "unwanted christmas present," £6,500rrp reduced to £5,500. Not to cast aspersions, but it was a very generic "middle class" lifestyle portrayed in the person's Facebook profile. Can't help but feel there is a hell of a lot of people got thoroughly carried away with spending bounceback loans and furlough wages.

At the same time, complete bikes might be running out of stock but frames are maybe looking harder to shift. Sponsored post popped up in my insta the other night with 2021 Santa Cruz frames getting offered at 10-30% discount.

gazza285

11,106 posts

237 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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Roll on next year, everyone will be vaccinated and back at work, and those of us who like a bargain will have a massive choice of hardly used premium bicycles to choose from on the second hand market.

oddman

Original Poster:

4,233 posts

281 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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PaulD86 said:
Only problem is that biking will be more expensive - Looking at the latest version of the bike I ride, it looks like it has gone up in price 15% every year since I bought mine. If that continues the 2030 version will be £23,000. Bike prices have gone beyond ridiculous.
My 1996 Santa Cruz Heckler was the thick end of 3k new

I think the new offerings are pretty good value

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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emicen said:
Very interesting subject this one.

I saw a Facebook marketplace post the other day, for a Specialized Levo SL Comp in carbon fibre. "Brand new, still in box" and "unwanted christmas present," £6,500rrp reduced to £5,500. Not to cast aspersions, but it was a very generic "middle class" lifestyle portrayed in the person's Facebook profile. Can't help but feel there is a hell of a lot of people got thoroughly carried away with spending bounceback loans and furlough wages.

At the same time, complete bikes might be running out of stock but frames are maybe looking harder to shift. Sponsored post popped up in my insta the other night with 2021 Santa Cruz frames getting offered at 10-30% discount.
Or cycleschemes (not 5.5k obviously)
But a higher rate taxpayer can buy a 3k bike for a little over 1.5k. Interest free over a year. No further charges. I bet a few of those end up for sale at a ‘profit’

PaulD86

1,840 posts

155 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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oddman said:
My 1996 Santa Cruz Heckler was the thick end of 3k new

I think the new offerings are pretty good value
That's £5750 in todays money (2.8%/ year inflation). I've observed my bike model going up 15% a year over the last 3. That's what I am meaning with bike prices. They seem to be going up a lot faster than just the rate of inflation these days.

budgie smuggler

6,053 posts

188 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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anonymous said:
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Were those at RRP? The most recent aluminium 5010 frame is selling for 1900 today, though it is discontinued.

An example posted on Singletrack shows an example of the very recent increases:

stw said:
Example Canyon Neuron 6:

Apr 2020 £1649
Nov 2020 £1849
Jan 2021 £2099
Edited by budgie smuggler on Monday 25th January 10:43

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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gazza285 said:
Roll on next year, everyone will be vaccinated and back at work, and those of us who like a bargain will have a massive choice of hardly used premium bicycles to choose from on the second hand market.
I doubt it somehow!

gazza285

11,106 posts

237 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Jimboka said:
gazza285 said:
Roll on next year, everyone will be vaccinated and back at work, and those of us who like a bargain will have a massive choice of hardly used premium bicycles to choose from on the second hand market.
I doubt it somehow!
Maybe not vaccinated and back to normal then.

Indoraptor

205 posts

68 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Jimboka said:
gazza285 said:
Roll on next year, everyone will be vaccinated and back at work, and those of us who like a bargain will have a massive choice of hardly used premium bicycles to choose from on the second hand market.
I doubt it somehow!
Quite. When the folk who bought the bikes because of lockdown realise how much of a kick in the nuts they’ll get if they want to sell them, they’ll mostly probably hang on to the bike.

andymc

7,616 posts

236 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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GT lightning in 1992 was £1800, the joy of interest free

Pulse

10,922 posts

247 months

Monday 25th January 2021
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Indoraptor said:
Jimboka said:
gazza285 said:
Roll on next year, everyone will be vaccinated and back at work, and those of us who like a bargain will have a massive choice of hardly used premium bicycles to choose from on the second hand market.
I doubt it somehow!
Quite. When the folk who bought the bikes because of lockdown realise how much of a kick in the nuts they’ll get if they want to sell them, they’ll mostly probably hang on to the bike.
Agree. It’s a mental game, and most won’t want to lose all that money instantly. Instead they’ll keep it for a few years, and then sell after not using it. That’s how most bikes go!

So, yes there will be some bargains - but it’ll be in 3-5 years’ time.

GravelBen

16,479 posts

259 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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emicen said:
At the same time, complete bikes might be running out of stock but frames are maybe looking harder to shift. Sponsored post popped up in my insta the other night with 2021 Santa Cruz frames getting offered at 10-30% discount.
The challenge is probably finding other components in stock to build the frame into a bike!

Indoraptor

205 posts

68 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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GravelBen said:
The challenge is probably finding other components in stock to build the frame into a bike!
Ain’t that the truth. Some fairly critical bits are like hens teeth at present.