Keeping chain clean in winter

Keeping chain clean in winter

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dave123456

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2,726 posts

154 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Hi,

I’ve a gravel bike that I’m using over the winter on the crumbling roads and lanes of Norfolk. It actually works quite well as some of the better routes I do are on roads that are single track and rarely used for anything other than farm machinery.

Anyway, I’ve got a fair toolkit, but not a huge amount of space, and my plan was 2 (or even 3) chains, cycled between on bike, in soak and lubricated.

On bike and lubricated I’m ok with, I use a wax based lube (hence the need to clean and relube frequently, in winter, unless I want a chain that is black with filth, rust is a continuous threat) has anyone come up with an ingenious cleaning method? Currently swilling in a bit of white spirit is my best option… I’d like something relatively environmentally friendly, low cost and hassle free, so a bottle of diesel or similar is a challenge for me.

Thank you

dudleybloke

20,428 posts

193 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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I've been using the KMC gold chains for a while now and the coating is very good at resisting corrosion, I only have to use a tiny amount of chain lube compared to a normal s/c chain and they don't get as mucky.

MWM3

1,794 posts

129 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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I too ride the Norfolk country lanes. I just give the chain a good clean with an apc and then through a chain cleaner. Rinse off dry and relube. Normally do this as soon as I'm back from ride.

I don't use wax lube but swear by either Fenwicks wet lube or their professional lube. The professional needs 4 hours curing so it depends what mood I'm in.

Never had any problems and get good life out of my chains.

frisbee

5,131 posts

117 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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I've started hot waxing my chain. The part I like is the wax actually gets properly into the joints.

I can be selective about which days I commute to the office so I've only been caught in downpours a few times but its held up pretty well. I dry it off with a rag if it does get wet but it withstands the conditions better than drip waxes.

I only clean then with solvents when first hot waxing them.

If it is dirty when I need to rewax it I pour a kettle of boiling water on it and it comes up spotless. I would try that with a drip wax.

JayRidesBikes

1,312 posts

136 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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I only ride outdoors once a week and clean the bike afterwards, so I've taken to using dry lube this year because whilst it's only lasting the week (indoor riding and once outside) I'm not getting any build up of crap on my chain to battle with when cleaning it afterwards.

jimmy156

3,699 posts

194 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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Cycling three chains between your bike over winter? This seems like massive overkill to me! The time spent cleaning / swapping chains can’t be paid back in reduced wear can it?

I spray the bike with a hose, dry it down and wipe the chain with an old micro fibre cloth.

Every third/fourth ride or if it gets super mucky, I’ll whip out the muc off and chain cleaner gadget.

I have noticed my bike needs considerably less maintanence when I wash it less as I was probably washing grease out of freehubs etc

Tim Cognito

511 posts

14 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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I just do the bare minimum now as it's just not worth the effort for it to be filthy again in 5 miles.

Use wax or thin lube all year round, nothing which makes the chain all gunky.

Clean the chain with soapy water when washing the bike and then dry it off with a rag so it doesn't stay wet.

The chains with the fancy anti rust coating are worth it

dave123456

Original Poster:

2,726 posts

154 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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jimmy156 said:
Cycling three chains between your bike over winter? This seems like massive overkill to me! The time spent cleaning / swapping chains can’t be paid back in reduced wear can it?

I spray the bike with a hose, dry it down and wipe the chain with an old micro fibre cloth.

Every third/fourth ride or if it gets super mucky, I’ll whip out the muc off and chain cleaner gadget.

I have noticed my bike needs considerably less maintanence when I wash it less as I was probably washing grease out of freehubs etc
Just don’t like filthy chains… not sure how to explain it any better than that.

It takes about a minute to put a chain on. And the same again to lubricate. If there was a quick cleaning method then it kind of makes sense to me.

irc

8,121 posts

143 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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My post wet weather ride process is.
Spray chain with WD49 or Teflon spray. Wipe with kitchen towel to remove surface crap. Lube with chain oil.

Stops any rust and while not anywhere near as efficient as removing the chain it takes seconds. Running 9 speed I can replace the chainring, chain, and cassette, for about £45 so life is too short for regularly removing the chain to clean it.

Simes205

4,636 posts

235 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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I ride MTB all year. I clean my chain after every winter ride with a park chain cleaner and use muc off wet lube sparingly during these months.

Chain always looks good, although I do about 3 chains a year.
Cheaper than trashing a 12 speed cassette.

Edited by Simes205 on Monday 20th November 06:49

Steve vRS

5,023 posts

248 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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I'm new to disc brakes on my road bike and so am a bit wary about spraying WD40 about. Do you all cover your discs before cleaning?

anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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dave123456 said:
Just don’t like filthy chains… not sure how to explain it any better than that.

It takes about a minute to put a chain on. And the same again to lubricate. If there was a quick cleaning method then it kind of makes sense to me.
I'm the same, I really hate my chain being dirty. I use a cheap sonicator to clean mine. I think I paid £40 for it.

I undo the quick link, put the chain into the sonicator with some cheap degreaser from screwfix and run it for 5 minutes. The chain comes out sparkling. I clean off the degreaser with mineral spirit in a container and give it a shake then refit the chain. If it's a road bike I hot wax in a slow cooker before refitting, mountain or gravel I use appropriate lube. It doesn't take any longer as the chain is being cleaned while I tend to the other bits of the bike. You can even use the sonicator as a parts cleaner for other bits, even done the wife's engagement ring so it's a very useful tool to have.

jesusbuiltmycar

4,644 posts

261 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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A few years back I started using Squirt Lube on all of my bikes and the chains just stay clean. All I do is re-apply after every other ride.

The only time I fish out my old chain cleaning tool and degreaser is to remove the factory lube after a new chain has done 100miles (or so).

TGCOTF-dewey

5,776 posts

62 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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If you're a roadie, just use hot wax. Any left over can be used to remove excess leg hair wink

If you ride mtb, dry lube as you'll be spending an hour after each ride cleaning knooks and crannies around pivots so what's an extra 10 minutes.

RicksAlfas

13,609 posts

251 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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jesusbuiltmycar said:
A few years back I started using Squirt Lube on all of my bikes and the chains just stay clean. All I do is re-apply after every other ride.
I clicked the Squirt section on Amazon. Quite amazing what they sell these days!!
eek

Salted_Peanut

1,519 posts

61 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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RicksAlfas said:
I clicked the Squirt section on Amazon. Quite amazing what they sell these days!!
eek
hehe

cml24

1,443 posts

154 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Pedaller said:
Simes205 said:
I ride MTB all year. I clean my chain after every winter ride with a park chain cleaner and use muc off wet lube sparingly during these months.

Chain always looks good, although I do about 3 chains a year.
Cheaper than trashing a 12 speed cassette.

Edited by Simes205 on Monday 20th November 06:49
Presumably the 3 chains per year is because they are stretched and you are trying not to wear out cassettes and chainrings? (Which is good practice). I ask because muc off wet lube forms a horrendous substance when mixed with water/mud, and it wrecks chains. Not surprised the chain cleaner tool is needed after each ride when using it! My advice would be to put it in the nearest bin.
I use a different lube, but those Park Tool chain cleaning tools are really worth the money. I buy a gallon of degreaser type stuff off the internet, dilute it down and use that. Very economical and they really get the chain acceptably clean. Not perfect, but much better than anything else I've tried beyond taking off and soaking.

Then lube of choice....

mie1972

184 posts

160 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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100 mile a week rider here - i rinse bike/chain each ride with a hose (and make sure chain is dry before putting away) and use a chain cleaner tool (like the park tools one) to degrease every 2-3 rides

Similar to you I avoid wet lube, as it just grinds into a paste and makes a chain go black. When re-lubing the chain always wipe excess off, most people forget to do this step.

Screwfix degreaser works well and is cheap when you buy 5 litres.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-degreaser-5...

Steve vRS

5,023 posts

248 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Must admit I use the Muc Off wet lube as it’s cheap. I do tend to decrease every few rides (with the Park Tool cleaner tool) and always wipe off the excess lube. I’m also quite anal about one drip per link! I don’t use the UV torch they send with the oil though to check for uniform coverage!

Lotobear

7,042 posts

135 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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I MTB throughout the year and being in Cumbria we usually come back in a stty mess!

My chain comes off ever 3rd ride or so and is laid out on a plank of wood and then brutalised with a pressure washer, then dried with an airline, then a liberal coating of GT 85 and then put overnight in a kerosene bath, drip dried then refitted.

Probably heresy but I just use 20/50 mineral engine oil out of a squirty can which seems to do the job just fine.