Replacing my rear shock....which one?
Discussion
I've got a lousy (for what I do), Fox Triad OEM rear shock on my '06 Stumpjumper FSR and I'm going to change it to something a little better.
Due to the frame design, I'm a little limited as to what I can fit, however I've been seriously considering the Fox RP23 shock. The Float is a little limited due to the fact that it's not as adjustable as the RP23, however it's massively reduced on CRC so I'm seriously tempted.
I've also been told to consider DT Swiss shocks. I've very little knowledge on these, however they are a lot more expensive from what I can see and I'd rather not spend that much!!!
What would you suggest as I'll want to buy something rather soon....
Due to the frame design, I'm a little limited as to what I can fit, however I've been seriously considering the Fox RP23 shock. The Float is a little limited due to the fact that it's not as adjustable as the RP23, however it's massively reduced on CRC so I'm seriously tempted.
I've also been told to consider DT Swiss shocks. I've very little knowledge on these, however they are a lot more expensive from what I can see and I'd rather not spend that much!!!
What would you suggest as I'll want to buy something rather soon....
DT Swiss shocks are stunning, light as anything and very adjustable, I've the SSD210 and its a really good shock.
However, the Float R is a cracking shock, and once set up, just as good as any other.
Whilst the RP23 is infinitely adjustable, you tend to only do it once, and then you just ride.
So conisder what you'll be doing with it, whether or not you need ProPedal or not, and go on that.
Consider getting a 2nd hand Float from Ebay and getting it PUSH'd - Tim works wonders on the Fox shock with these kits and its a really cheap way to get a superbly set up shock - he'll advise what and how you need it set up for your weight, riding style, and suspension design.
However, the Float R is a cracking shock, and once set up, just as good as any other.
Whilst the RP23 is infinitely adjustable, you tend to only do it once, and then you just ride.
So conisder what you'll be doing with it, whether or not you need ProPedal or not, and go on that.
Consider getting a 2nd hand Float from Ebay and getting it PUSH'd - Tim works wonders on the Fox shock with these kits and its a really cheap way to get a superbly set up shock - he'll advise what and how you need it set up for your weight, riding style, and suspension design.
neil_bolton said:
DT Swiss shocks are stunning, light as anything and very adjustable, I've the SSD210 and its a really good shock.
However, the Float R is a cracking shock, and once set up, just as good as any other.
Whilst the RP23 is infinitely adjustable, you tend to only do it once, and then you just ride.
So conisder what you'll be doing with it, whether or not you need ProPedal or not, and go on that.
Consider getting a 2nd hand Float from Ebay and getting it PUSH'd - Tim works wonders on the Fox shock with these kits and its a really cheap way to get a superbly set up shock - he'll advise what and how you need it set up for your weight, riding style, and suspension design.
I definitely need the Pro-Pedal, and the Float R just seemed limited with the single and constant setting. The RP23 just seems to offer the best of all worlds once set up.However, the Float R is a cracking shock, and once set up, just as good as any other.
Whilst the RP23 is infinitely adjustable, you tend to only do it once, and then you just ride.
So conisder what you'll be doing with it, whether or not you need ProPedal or not, and go on that.
Consider getting a 2nd hand Float from Ebay and getting it PUSH'd - Tim works wonders on the Fox shock with these kits and its a really cheap way to get a superbly set up shock - he'll advise what and how you need it set up for your weight, riding style, and suspension design.
After checking out prices, I'm going to move away from the DT Swiss shocks simply because of the price.
I've also read reasonable reviews regarding the Rockshox shocks but I'm still unconvinced....anyone here with any experience in these?
beanbag said:
neil_bolton said:
DT Swiss shocks are stunning, light as anything and very adjustable, I've the SSD210 and its a really good shock.
However, the Float R is a cracking shock, and once set up, just as good as any other.
Whilst the RP23 is infinitely adjustable, you tend to only do it once, and then you just ride.
So conisder what you'll be doing with it, whether or not you need ProPedal or not, and go on that.
Consider getting a 2nd hand Float from Ebay and getting it PUSH'd - Tim works wonders on the Fox shock with these kits and its a really cheap way to get a superbly set up shock - he'll advise what and how you need it set up for your weight, riding style, and suspension design.
I definitely need the Pro-Pedal, and the Float R just seemed limited with the single and constant setting. The RP23 just seems to offer the best of all worlds once set up.However, the Float R is a cracking shock, and once set up, just as good as any other.
Whilst the RP23 is infinitely adjustable, you tend to only do it once, and then you just ride.
So conisder what you'll be doing with it, whether or not you need ProPedal or not, and go on that.
Consider getting a 2nd hand Float from Ebay and getting it PUSH'd - Tim works wonders on the Fox shock with these kits and its a really cheap way to get a superbly set up shock - he'll advise what and how you need it set up for your weight, riding style, and suspension design.
After checking out prices, I'm going to move away from the DT Swiss shocks simply because of the price.
I've also read reasonable reviews regarding the Rockshox shocks but I'm still unconvinced....anyone here with any experience in these?
I'd vote Fox rear shocks simply because they are easily serviced, and plentiful in terms of support and parts. They also work bloody well.
neil_bolton said:
beanbag said:
neil_bolton said:
DT Swiss shocks are stunning, light as anything and very adjustable, I've the SSD210 and its a really good shock.
However, the Float R is a cracking shock, and once set up, just as good as any other.
Whilst the RP23 is infinitely adjustable, you tend to only do it once, and then you just ride.
So conisder what you'll be doing with it, whether or not you need ProPedal or not, and go on that.
Consider getting a 2nd hand Float from Ebay and getting it PUSH'd - Tim works wonders on the Fox shock with these kits and its a really cheap way to get a superbly set up shock - he'll advise what and how you need it set up for your weight, riding style, and suspension design.
I definitely need the Pro-Pedal, and the Float R just seemed limited with the single and constant setting. The RP23 just seems to offer the best of all worlds once set up.However, the Float R is a cracking shock, and once set up, just as good as any other.
Whilst the RP23 is infinitely adjustable, you tend to only do it once, and then you just ride.
So conisder what you'll be doing with it, whether or not you need ProPedal or not, and go on that.
Consider getting a 2nd hand Float from Ebay and getting it PUSH'd - Tim works wonders on the Fox shock with these kits and its a really cheap way to get a superbly set up shock - he'll advise what and how you need it set up for your weight, riding style, and suspension design.
After checking out prices, I'm going to move away from the DT Swiss shocks simply because of the price.
I've also read reasonable reviews regarding the Rockshox shocks but I'm still unconvinced....anyone here with any experience in these?
I'd vote Fox rear shocks simply because they are easily serviced, and plentiful in terms of support and parts. They also work bloody well.
Perhaps they have international postage????
beanbag said:
mk1fan said:
Get it revalved for you're weight or Push'd for your weight and you won't need the adjustment of the RP23.
What's this PUSH'd thing exactly?http://www.tftunedshox.com/faq/cat/fox-rear-shox/9...
Edited by pdV6 on Thursday 28th August 11:46
pdV6 said:
beanbag said:
mk1fan said:
Get it revalved for you're weight or Push'd for your weight and you won't need the adjustment of the RP23.
What's this PUSH'd thing exactly?http://www.tftunedshox.com/faq/cat/fox-rear-shox/9...
Edited by pdV6 on Thursday 28th August 11:46
neil_bolton said:
pdV6 said:
beanbag said:
mk1fan said:
Get it revalved for you're weight or Push'd for your weight and you won't need the adjustment of the RP23.
What's this PUSH'd thing exactly?http://www.tftunedshox.com/faq/cat/fox-rear-shox/9...
Edited by pdV6 on Thursday 28th August 11:46
Having the Float R constantly on, would seem quite limited as you would need it on a higher setting going up to avoid bobbing while pedalling hard and a lower setting coming down to give more movement over harsh terrain.
Sorry for the scepticism with just buying a Float R and using this PUSH'd tuning. I just don't want to go out and buy something that I'm not happy with and lose my hard earned cash. I do however appreciate and am taking into account all your advice.
That's the beauty of it, though. The whole point of ProPedal is that it's supposed to reduce pedal-induced bobbing in the first place. ProPedal + lockout indicates that maybe it simply doesn't work that well.
A PUSHed shock, though, is basically like having ProPedal that actually works properly, so there's no need to "turn it off" for the climbs. Having the shock still active (but not bobbing much) when climbing helps to increase traction and therefore get up the hill faster anyway...
A PUSHed shock, though, is basically like having ProPedal that actually works properly, so there's no need to "turn it off" for the climbs. Having the shock still active (but not bobbing much) when climbing helps to increase traction and therefore get up the hill faster anyway...
mk1fan said:
Are you (Beanbag) saying you want to be able to use the three different Pro Pedal positions on each ride? I can't think of any reason to do this - even if you do a lot of climbing.
I think I would use two. The nice thing about the RP23 (from my point of view), is that you can have Pro-Pedal on, or turn it off completely. I do a lot of hard climbing in the Alps so I just see this as an advantage to me.I'm just wary about buying the Float R, and realising it's not for me......
Being blunt I can't see why you would need to use any more than one of the PP settings - regardless of the climbing you're doing. I can see how you would want a PP setting and a lock-out function but not different PP settings.
It sounds like what you need is the old Float RC with custom valving and a lock out rather than a RP23. I had one fitted to my S-Works and it was great. Not available new any more - well not from Mojo.
Perhaps a Rock Shox shock with a Floodgate is the answer. That way you can set 'stiffness' - from fully closed to slightly open - of the Floodgate valve as you need it on the trail.
Although, personally, I'd have the Float R and get it Push'd. If you're 'so' particular about what you want the shock to do then you really need to speak to the experts. Either Mojo or TFTuned. I'd speak to TF because they offer all the shock manufacturers rather than just Fox.
It sounds like what you need is the old Float RC with custom valving and a lock out rather than a RP23. I had one fitted to my S-Works and it was great. Not available new any more - well not from Mojo.
Perhaps a Rock Shox shock with a Floodgate is the answer. That way you can set 'stiffness' - from fully closed to slightly open - of the Floodgate valve as you need it on the trail.
Although, personally, I'd have the Float R and get it Push'd. If you're 'so' particular about what you want the shock to do then you really need to speak to the experts. Either Mojo or TFTuned. I'd speak to TF because they offer all the shock manufacturers rather than just Fox.
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