Anyone in here own a Ford Puma?
Anyone in here own a Ford Puma?
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Richair

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1,021 posts

220 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Hi all,

You may have seen I also have a thread going in general gassing, so apologies for a 2nd thread!
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...

To summarise, im looking to buy a puma as my new daily, but im a little concerned about fitting my MTB bikes in the back; the biggest of which is a DH rig with boxxers and uber-wide bars.

Does anybody in here own/know somebody who owns a puma and reguarly transports a bike in the back of it? If so, is it a PITA or is ok?

Will probably be going to view another car over the next few days so will take my bike along I think!

Thanks, Rich smile

jellison

12,803 posts

300 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Richair said:
Hi all,

You may have seen I also have a thread going in general gassing, so apologies for a 2nd thread!
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...

To summarise, im looking to buy a puma as my new daily, but im a little concerned about fitting my MTB bikes in the back; the biggest of which is a DH rig with boxxers and uber-wide bars.

Does anybody in here own/know somebody who owns a puma and reguarly transports a bike in the back of it? If so, is it a PITA or is ok?

Will probably be going to view another car over the next few days so will take my bike along I think!

Thanks, Rich smile
Do it - I have done this for 2 years, both wheels off and a few big sheets for the muck. Easy

b2hbm

1,301 posts

245 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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yeah, the missus has a puma and you can fit a road bike in the back with no problems. And one of my mates managed to fit a full suspension Marin MTB in his when meeting up for off-road rides, so depending on the width of the bars you'd probably be ok.

Personally I'd not bother though, it's tight to get through the hatch and a good chance of bashing the car. The last time we took our mtb bikes to Scotland with the puma I fitted a rear rack, very simple & if you're leaving the car in a remote car park you can easily stow the rack in the boot.

Richair

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1,021 posts

220 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Cheers guys!

Im pretty taken by the idea of one due to the value for money and the dynamics the car offers. I would be willing to invest for a rack for longer journeys, but I need to have the convenience of beeing able to put the bike in the back as I sometimes go riding straight from work.

Pretty much come to the conclusion im just going to have to take the bike along to try.

However, it would still be nice to hear from someone if they transport a 'rig in the back of a Puma smile

sebo

2,179 posts

249 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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I have one. Can't say allot about bike transport but can say that the heat fronted screen is a god send when it's freezing!


theboymoon

2,699 posts

283 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Richair said:
Cheers guys!

Im pretty taken by the idea of one due to the value for money and the dynamics the car offers. I would be willing to invest for a rack for longer journeys, but I need to have the convenience of beeing able to put the bike in the back as I sometimes go riding straight from work.

Pretty much come to the conclusion im just going to have to take the bike along to try.

However, it would still be nice to hear from someone if they transport a 'rig in the back of a Puma smile
306 rallye more than does the job...

Enduro
4 pairs of skis
all my worldly Possessions
Faster than a puma
Just as fun (debateable i guess!)

I regularly drive with 2x bikes, tent and camping gear, DH stuff and a box or two of beer in the back no problem at all.


Richair

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1,021 posts

220 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Already considered and discounted im afraid! They're great cars and all, but finding a good unmolested one seems to be tricky (that goes for both the rallye and the gti-6).

Im working on a max budget of around £2.5k and good ones seem to change hands for more than that. There's also the issue of ecconomy; the minimum real-world figure is 35mpg.

As a daily, it doesn't have to be all that quick (that's what the weekend car's for evil) but it must have a chassis with some level of tallent. Hence why the ford is a good prospect smile

jellison

12,803 posts

300 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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I have had 2 full MTB in the back and luggage - but that really was a bit nuts. Was just to get me from Surrey to Wiltshire to laod all onto a Big Camper, but it all fitted with the seats down!

No fan of external racks.

theboymoon

2,699 posts

283 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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Richair said:
Already considered and discounted im afraid! They're great cars and all, but finding a good unmolested one seems to be tricky (that goes for both the rallye and the gti-6).

Im working on a max budget of around £2.5k and good ones seem to change hands for more than that. There's also the issue of ecconomy; the minimum real-world figure is 35mpg.

As a daily, it doesn't have to be all that quick (that's what the weekend car's for evil) but it must have a chassis with some level of tallent. Hence why the ford is a good prospect smile
Fair enough, to be honest the wee pug has always been a bit thirstier than it has any right to be....

£2.5k should get you a good one tho, as with everything prices have taken a hammering recently. I'd certainly expect no more from mine in a private sale.

If the puma is big enough in the back (which i reckon it would be) then go for it! There's a puma within the moon family stable - belongs to my dad's wife's sister. I've driven it a couple of times and really does live up to the hype. Lots of smilesmilesmile

theboymoon

2,699 posts

283 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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jellison said:
No fan of external racks.
Me neither! Can never quite relax when driving with a rack on the back. Discourages hoonage too smile

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

287 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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To further confuse you:

I can fit two DH bikes in my 328 Sport coupe with ease, including wheels, large toolbox and all my kit biggrin

328s of normal flavour can be picked up for between 1 and 3k now, and Sports usually command an extra 1k on top of those prices depending on condition. They're bulletproof, and perfect GTs for those trips to Scotland or France smile

However, whilst motorways can see 37mpg, normal driving returns a more likely 23-25mpg. After all, you don't buy a large straight 6 for the fuel economy, do you wink

I have a roof mounted rack which is VERY secure (tested to all sorts of extremes) but as long as the bikes are not absolutely covered in st they go in the car, and me and a passenger can enjoy some sideways fun.

Eh Moon? wink

pdV6

16,442 posts

284 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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neil_bolton said:
I can fit two DH bikes in my 328 Sport coupe with ease
I'm gonna call you on the "with ease" part!

Yes, they'll fit allright but it's not like they just drop in without touching the sides, is it? wink

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

287 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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pdV6 said:
neil_bolton said:
I can fit two DH bikes in my 328 Sport coupe with ease
I'm gonna call you on the "with ease" part!

Yes, they'll fit allright but it's not like they just drop in without touching the sides, is it? wink
Granted.

It does require pedals and seatposts off, and a piece of carpet to protect the bikes from scratching eachother, but as Moonie and I have found, it does work - I think you and I were the first to try!

Podie

46,647 posts

298 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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Ford :geek:

Ford produced a bike rack for the Puma, so might be worth checking out..?

Richair

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1,021 posts

220 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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Funnily enough a Bimmer is the other option, although I've discounted saloons and coupes and decided a nice 318ti Sport could be a good idea.

However, it seems finding a good one is tricky! And although I know the B-M will be a nice place to be, I can't help thinking i'll be a little short changed on fun factor... They're still a fairly heavy car even withought an arse!!!

Still, I've never owned a RWD car so it could be a good taster smile

theboymoon

2,699 posts

283 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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neil_bolton said:
pdV6 said:
neil_bolton said:
I can fit two DH bikes in my 328 Sport coupe with ease
I'm gonna call you on the "with ease" part!

Yes, they'll fit allright but it's not like they just drop in without touching the sides, is it? wink
Granted.

It does require pedals and seatposts off, and a piece of carpet to protect the bikes from scratching eachother, but as Moonie and I have found, it does work - I think you and I were the first to try!
it does work, it really does.


deevlash

10,442 posts

260 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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I normally take the wheels off but this was just a short hop. Thats a halfrauds rack and its fine, you need to make sure the pedals are secure though, I gouged a bit of paint off the kind of spoiler lip on the boot with my bear traps once because they rotated a bit too much.

pdV6

16,442 posts

284 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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theboymoon said:
neil_bolton said:
pdV6 said:
neil_bolton said:
I can fit two DH bikes in my 328 Sport coupe with ease
I'm gonna call you on the "with ease" part!

Yes, they'll fit allright but it's not like they just drop in without touching the sides, is it? wink
Granted.

It does require pedals and seatposts off, and a piece of carpet to protect the bikes from scratching eachother, but as Moonie and I have found, it does work - I think you and I were the first to try!
it does work, it really does.
Yeah I know. Wouldn't call it "easy" for 2 bikes though...

Neil G60

696 posts

247 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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My wife's got a Puma and I fitted an Orange Patriot (large size) with dual crown forks inside the body of the car plus luggage for both of us for a week smile Had to pack carefully though! It's an OK car. Lovely engine (1.7 Yamaha unit) and gearbox. Bits wear out on it though and trim quality is poor which is typical Ford. The brakes are APPALLING though. Early ones came with tiny discs, later ones were slightly better I understand. The 'Lux' ones came with Ford's heated front screen which is a godsend in this weather. Air-con has a habit of leaking water into the cabin and ours leaks in the rain a bit. Quality is patchy but is a great car to hustle down country lanes.

Edited by Neil G60 on Thursday 22 January 12:48


Edited by Neil G60 on Thursday 22 January 12:49

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

287 months

Thursday 22nd January 2009
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Richair said:
Funnily enough a Bimmer is the other option, although I've discounted saloons and coupes and decided a nice 318ti Sport could be a good idea.

However, it seems finding a good one is tricky! And although I know the B-M will be a nice place to be, I can't help thinking i'll be a little short changed on fun factor... They're still a fairly heavy car even withought an arse!!!

Still, I've never owned a RWD car so it could be a good taster smile
I don't know whether to be insulted or not by that remark.

BMW, short changed on the fun factor?

Not on your nelly matey. If you have to go smaller engined for insurance reasons and fuel, then go fine yourself a nice 318iS Coupe, a 150 bhp 4 pot engine that is much MUCH more fruity than the figures suggest.

RWD is ten million times more fun than FWD, and you know with the BMW its (shouldn't do, at least) not going to throw any surprises at you.

Take a good look at the 325 or 328 Sports - surprisingly cheap to insure, and incredibly cheap to run - mine cost me NOTHING bar tyres and a service to run last year and sailed through its MOT.

It is REGULARLY abused. wink

Honestly, don't ever discount an E36 based on it being a bit heavy (as they are NOT) - they can show up some much MUCH bigger stuff; something that, as well driven as it can ever be, could not be done in a Puma (however sideways it'll go in on the brakes).