A sharp rise in the cost of biking?
A sharp rise in the cost of biking?
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Beyond Rational

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3,544 posts

238 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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It may be that I have been slow to notice, but the cost of shimano cranks in particular seems to have rocketed, I guess this is partly due to our weak pound?

OilyRagMan

3,848 posts

272 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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just about every compnent/frame Manufacturer have put up their prices!! due to higher production costs and sh*t pound!!

lingus75

1,704 posts

245 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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I noticed this to. I am aware the exchange rate is rubbish, but iirc the 08 XT crank was £90 at CRC, now its £165!!!

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

257 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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We need someone like Hope to start making those components tbh.

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

287 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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Put simply, the exchange rate and the increase in the cost of raw materials has forced everyone to re-evaluate the consumer retail prices.

Many companies absorbed the price increases last year, I know as a kitchenware company we absorbed a 20% rise - however businesses cannot continue to run at a reduced margin, and therefore the consumer cost has risen.

Its a difficult line to tread - you need to ensure that the margins are worthwhile, especially to ensure continual reinvestment in R+D, however you run the risk of annoying the customer sufficiently to lose sales moreover the margins you'd kept in check.

I have noticed already, expecially on one or two bikes, a sharp reduction in build quality - and I have a strong suspicion that those who increase their prices don't have that lost build quality.

Its pants certainly, but a sign of the times.

Bear in mind that Hope face the same problems as anyone else - they still have to buy the raw materials, and thats what is killing everything.

pdV6

16,442 posts

284 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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yes Bought a new BB for a set of HTii cranks the other day.
LBS charged me ~£30 for an LX/XT spec BB which is what I was expecting (as it was the last of their existing stock) but then they looked at the price for the exact same part for new stock and it was more like £55 eek

mat205125

17,790 posts

236 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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Plenty of 08 and even residual 07, and 09 stock for that matter, already in the country that arrived before the yen/pund/dollar/euro rate went against the UK buyer.

gbbird

5,197 posts

267 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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Was discussing this with the owner of teh LBS on Saturday. Most shimano goods have gone sky high, an example being that a shimano slx rear hub is now more expensive than a Pro II.

Talking of Hope, the chap told me that, being british, this is one of the very few component manufacturers that has not hiked their prices. Time to buy British methinks smile

red355

231 posts

236 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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Shimano put their UK prices up on 1st Feb by 33%

Canon UK have raised prices twice already in 2009 and a third increase is expected.


Its the value of the yen against the pound/euro that's at the root.


so if you think you need some consumables/spares for 2009 like chains/cassettes/tyres get them now if you can find them in stock at 2008 prices. They are only going to go up.

Many 2009 bikes look very poor value against discounted 2008 models

Chris_w666

22,655 posts

222 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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Buying spares and tools for my new fleet of bikes I have found the best deals anywhere to be on specialized equipment. This may be a general trend but also could be that their dealer/distributor network is holding a lot of stock from when the £ was strong.

Big Bob

753 posts

225 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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Parts maybe but some of Specialized's top end bikes have taken a £500 price hike over 2008 models.

OilyRagMan

3,848 posts

272 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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mat205125 said:
Plenty of 08 and even residual 07, and 09 stock for that matter, already in the country that arrived before the yen/pund/dollar/euro rate went against the UK buyer.
alot of shops are putting there pre price rise stock up as well!!

snotrag

15,497 posts

234 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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A lot of it has been covered already.

But working 'the trade' it has not come as a surprise.

We'vee actually hard artificially low prices for a few years with minimal rises - so its just a sharp jump has shocked everyone.

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

257 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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I can see a bit of that - I remember being at college looking at the Dura-ace components locked away in the glass cabinet of Harry Halls, and thinking how I'd never be able to afford them. From memory a Dura-ace crankset was well over £100, and this was in 1990.

snotrag

15,497 posts

234 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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It also poses another, er, poser.

Do you really need XTR? etc?

Yes, yes, I've got the posh blingy stuff on my bike.

But you only have to look at just how good some of the more affordable kit (See the SLX group, the Speciliazed Pitch, recent RS forks) is to see that the quality and value is still right up there.

People may jsut be a little bit more selective about what they buy, hopefully it will sort the good from the guff (theres a lot of ste available for bikes) and the strong products will survive and prices will even out.

Beyond Rational

Original Poster:

3,544 posts

238 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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I think I'll drop a groupset, I might have anyway, as you say, SLX is such a balanced range. I won't be buying so much "unneeded but nice to have" stuff though; I do fear for bike shops, particularly some of these out of the way, high end destination shops/trail centres.

Edited by Beyond Rational on Wednesday 25th February 19:07

snotrag

15,497 posts

234 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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It is a worry for bike shops. But, as said earlier, it sorts the wheat from the chaff. Theres a lot of rubbish shops about.

My work is doing well, with many other shops in the area apparently struggling or already under.

Good customer service with a smile, quality workshop/repair work and knowledgeable and eager staff will see you through.

Noticeably more people going for'fix it' rather than 'replace it' in the past 6 months or so. Makes sense to me.

g_stacey

644 posts

256 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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No chance of this now!!!!



thepickle

975 posts

249 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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I was just wondering (brought on by the pedals thread) how the hell Shimano M520 SPDs were over £30 on Wiggle/CRC whereas they've been around £20 or under for at least the past year and a bit from other places (Merlin comes to mind). I had to get a Shimano freehub body this week and paid £24 because all the older stock (same part) at £15 had sold out. That's a bit of a jump and all starts adding up when you need a lot of bits. The prices on the Shimano cranks are crazy!

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

242 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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Mmmm. Think I'll go visit the local "Cycle Jumble" that's on Sunday locally. Bound to be some bargins there. Amazing what gets offered at a fraction of shop price, especially clothing.