Stiff Carbon Road Frames
Stiff Carbon Road Frames
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fergus

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6,430 posts

298 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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Hi. I'm looking for a stiff carbon frame, as my current planet X one seems like it's made of plasticine (low modulus CF layup). Any recommendations? Isaac would be nice....

anonymous-user

77 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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i would probably go for a Trex. their mtb carbon frames are v.stiff and i have heard good things about their roda bikes too. also have a look at the cervelo range.

Primera in Bournemouth would be a good place to start
http://www.primera-bournemouth.co.uk/CategoryTempl...

Muzzlehatch

4,766 posts

265 months

Thursday 26th February 2009
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It depends on your budget, and what geometry suits you best.

The likes of Trek and Specialized have some good high end frames, but I prefer a bit of innovation so would recommend a Cervelo (R3, S2 or S3).

fergus

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6,430 posts

298 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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Muzzlehatch said:
It depends on your budget, and what geometry suits you best.

The likes of Trek and Specialized have some good high end frames, but I prefer a bit of innovation so would recommend a Cervelo (R3, S2 or S3).
Up to about 2500, so can possibly do better than spec. and trek for the money! I like a fairly steep geo, so may look at the cervelos as they allow the seat angle to be effectively steepened via swithcing the seat post 180 deg.

ta

anonymous-user

77 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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http://www.primera-bournemouth.co.uk/Template.aspx... should do the trick unless you are competing every week at a high level or want the ultimate piece of garage jewellery!... http://www.primera-bournemouth.co.uk/Template.aspx...


red355

231 posts

236 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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Don't overlook a Look 595 Ultra, or Colnago C50 HP

or if you want stiff and still pretty light get a 953 Steel frame made to measure by Rourke

fergus

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6,430 posts

298 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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red355 said:
Don't overlook a Look 595 Ultra, or Colnago C50 HP

or if you want stiff and still pretty light get a 953 Steel frame made to measure by Rourke
heard lots of very bad things about look frames from Guy Hetherington (220 bike road tester, one of my brother friends)..... Colnago seem a lot of cash for what they are. Nice though!!

red355

231 posts

236 months

Monday 2nd March 2009
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fergus said:
red355 said:
Don't overlook a Look 595 Ultra, or Colnago C50 HP

or if you want stiff and still pretty light get a 953 Steel frame made to measure by Rourke
heard lots of very bad things about look frames from Guy Hetherington (220 bike road tester, one of my brother friends)..... Colnago seem a lot of cash for what they are. Nice though!!
I agree that Look have had some bad press with cracking of the seat cluster, but their reported after sales has always been good.

Colnago has a racing pedigree that the new boys like Trek, Cervelo, Scott would love to have to market

Another obvious stiff frame now I've typed those three names is Scotts with its Addict or a lower price point the CR1. Very light, responsive but not a smooth ride like others offer.

Cervelo R3 would be a good choice and have excellent after sales service....their previous model the R2.5 had a recall



Still don't over look that custom steel frame option

fergus

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6,430 posts

298 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2009
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red355 said:
fergus said:
red355 said:
Don't overlook a Look 595 Ultra, or Colnago C50 HP

or if you want stiff and still pretty light get a 953 Steel frame made to measure by Rourke
heard lots of very bad things about look frames from Guy Hetherington (220 bike road tester, one of my brother friends)..... Colnago seem a lot of cash for what they are. Nice though!!
I agree that Look have had some bad press with cracking of the seat cluster, but their reported after sales has always been good.

Colnago has a racing pedigree that the new boys like Trek, Cervelo, Scott would love to have to market

Another obvious stiff frame now I've typed those three names is Scotts with its Addict or a lower price point the CR1. Very light, responsive but not a smooth ride like others offer.

Cervelo R3 would be a good choice and have excellent after sales service....their previous model the R2.5 had a recall



Still don't over look that custom steel frame option
Got a custom 853 MTB which rides really nicely. I had a look at something called a Ridley Noah which *looked* quite nice, but never seen any reviews of them.... http://www.davekanecycles.com/images/Noah%20902B%2...

Anyone got any experience of the Trek OCLV Red range? he R3 is a nice bit of kit though. Almost ubiquitous these days.

PS the problem with the look was the complete lack of torsional rigidity. Apparantly, you could hold the bars and seat and make the frame deflect a *lot* whilst pushing your foot against the crank. This is almost the same torque reaction that the frame undergoes whilst pedalling hard....


Muzzlehatch

4,766 posts

265 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2009
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I've also heard good reports about the higher end Giant and Wilier offerings. Certainly worth a look.

fergus

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6,430 posts

298 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2009
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narrowed down to cervelo solist (now S2) or isaac ultrasonic..... both probably the stiffest frame on the market. Finally get rid of the plasticine planet X I'm riding (cheap for a reason!) Thanks chaps.

red355

231 posts

236 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2009
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fergus said:
narrowed down to cervelo solist (now S2) or isaac ultrasonic.....
Either of those would make for a great ride...

PS I've got a Parlee which is easily the best frame I've had in 30 years of riding and i have had some nice bikes (too many the wife says).
The Z4 is in the same price as those two. Not as obviously stiff as others but plenty stiff for me.
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id...

Pez summary
There are stiffer bikes and lighter bikes. But the list of stock bikes that are stiffer and lighter and this smooth don’t require using all your fingers on one hand to count…

Honestly I would rather be on a bike with a bit more compromise toward ride quality than toward the “stiff/light” battle cry of the weak marketing men. But then this test frame is plenty stiff and sub 900 grams, so exactly what I’m giving up for the extra comfort, I simply don’t miss.

fergus

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298 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2009
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brand new soloist from authorised dealer for £1100! done deal!

red355

231 posts

236 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2009
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Thats a really good deal...well done

Muzzlehatch

4,766 posts

265 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2009
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fergus said:
brand new soloist from authorised dealer for £1100! done deal!
Very nice - is that a Soloist Carbon or 2009 S2? (With that silly low price I'd say the former, which is still a mega-bargain).

It should come with a 3T or Wolf CL fork. Make sure it doesn't have the Wolf SL fork, as that was recalled due to some LBSs incorrectly fitting it, resulting in breakage.

fergus

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298 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2009
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Muzzlehatch said:
fergus said:
brand new soloist from authorised dealer for £1100! done deal!
Very nice - is that a Soloist Carbon or 2009 S2? (With that silly low price I'd say the former, which is still a mega-bargain).

It should come with a 3T or Wolf CL fork. Make sure it doesn't have the Wolf SL fork, as that was recalled due to some LBSs incorrectly fitting it, resulting in breakage.
2008 model, rather than the S2. Will double check on the fork... thanks for the heads up.

Pupp

12,871 posts

295 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2009
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Shame the Boardman framesets seem not to be available separately... quality looks good from what I've seen

Nick_F

10,598 posts

269 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2009
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What size is the P-X and what are you planning to do with it?

fergus

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6,430 posts

298 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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Nick_F said:
What size is the P-X and what are you planning to do with it?
'XL' (around 56cms from memory (sloping top tube))... selling it!!! It's got a few cable scuff marks etc on it, but is in fair condition and has a 1 month old DA BB fitted. Comes with seat post and clamp, etc

http://www.planet-x-warehouse.co.uk/?page_id=1049

Edited by fergus on Wednesday 4th March 11:03

Nick_F

10,598 posts

269 months

Wednesday 4th March 2009
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Too big, unfortunately, at 6'0' I only need a large.

In fact I think my Stealth is a medium, but they're a different shape.